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1 hour ago, Tryin said:

Your impact positions look great to me and it looks like your making good contact with the ball.  How are you playing on the course?

Pretty good right now.

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I’ve entered my blue period as all artists do. 😁 Working on my PP to reduce early extension and have the hips more open at impact. Some progress but a ways to go.

 

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2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

I’ve entered my blue period as all artists do. 😁 Working on my PP to reduce early extension and have the hips more open at impact. Some progress but a ways to go.

 

You forgot to add a song to your video:

 

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2 hours ago, billchao said:

You forgot to add a song to your video:

 

😀

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Today’s work. Palmar flexion from A4 and trying to get the club face angle to match my spine angle after impact. Still a work in progress. These are higher speed swings. Most of the session was slower speed holding at A9.

 

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I've been play more than practicing this month, but have got a couple sessions in. The focus is the same, getting my hips more open at impact. Erik added palmar flexion and not letting my wrists roll-over to my last Evolvr lesson. It is slow progress on this one. 

I also am trying to do two more things. First, I get pretty amped up on the first tee and need to slow down. So I have been working on tempo in addition to my PP. The feel is smooth transition. It is almost like I feel the club just falling at the start, but feel ain't real.

Second, maintain eye contact on the ball through impact. I have a weird habit of not looking at the ball during the downswing. When I watch through impact, for all shots, I make better contact. When I don't, contact is worse. I know it should be pretty f-ing easy, "just look at the damn ball!", but for some reason, I have trouble with this. 

I noticed it first when working on chips and pitches earlier this year. Then I started to catalog it on the course. And it is not anecdotal. 

So here are my swing from yesterday. It was stunningly humid. I was sweating profusely. I had to wear rain gloves. I have that rehearsal to impact that Stephan wants be to use and I am trying to hold off my wrists from turning over after impact. Ball flight is straight push to push draw with these when done right. 

Target lines on the net: for the 7 iron, just right of the left yellow string is actually straight ahead. For the driver, the first black line. So for the 7 iron, I am trying to hit the black line or just to the left of it and for the driver, between the two lines.

 

 

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Those look good, Scott.

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On 8/23/2019 at 6:51 PM, iacas said:

Those look good, Scott.

Thanks!

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I haven’t been able to play or practice much in the last three months due to family issues, but I was able to get out yesterday and hit into my net. @nevets88 inspired me to add to my practice set up an alignment stick to help swing out more through impact. Below, I am working on that. Did mostly partials and focused on keeping the shoulder and hip turn going through impact.


With the face on, my turn is still slowing at A5 to A6, so the club head catches up. This will be part of my focus in the off season.

 

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Nice @boogielicious

Heh heh, I've broken more than a few PVC pieces, if you're not careful, bits can go flying lol, you bypassed that!

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I obliterated the stick yesterday @nevets88😂 I was doing a mapping swing from the top and smashed it to smitherines!

Below I am working on the turn again. I still seem to slow down the shoulder turn before A6 and the club head then catches up.

 

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2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

I obliterated the stick yesterday @nevets88😂 I was doing a mapping swing from the top and smashed it to smitherines!

Below I am working on the turn again. I still seem to slow down the shoulder turn before A6 and the club head then catches up.

 

Lol! I hit the sticks not infrequently during practice. Drew a little blood once. Gotta be careful! It does give you incentive to adjust the path though!

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2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

I obliterated the stick yesterday @nevets88😂 I was doing a mapping swing from the top and smashed it to smitherines!

Below I am working on the turn again. I still seem to slow down the shoulder turn before A6 and the club head then catches up.

 

Lol! I hit the sticks not infrequently during practice. Drew a little blood once. Gotta be careful! It does give you incentive to adjust the path though!

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Guys, the point of using sticks is to not hit them 😜

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28 minutes ago, billchao said:

Guys, the point of using sticks (golf clubs) is to not hit them 😜

Kinda like lowest score wins?    See what I did there?   

I realize they were talking alignment sticks but I couldn't help myself! :doh:

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3 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Lol! I hit the sticks not infrequently during practice. Drew a little blood once. Gotta be careful! It does give you incentive to adjust the path though!

Pool noodles, guys.

1 hour ago, billchao said:

Guys, the point of using sticks is to not hit them 😜

Also, this.

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Today’s work. More of the same but it’s frikkin’ freezing. 17mph wind with gusts to 35. Lasted about 30 minutes. 
 

 

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More work on the same stuff while the weather holds. Working on the feel of the right elbow coming down and in front as the shoulders and hips turn. Left shoulder also continuing around through impacting.

I also reinforced  my stick with yellow duct tape. Safety First!

 

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