Toughest 18 Holes on the PGA Tour

[billchao]

Take the 18 toughest holes by each hole number on the PGA Tour this year and make them into an imaginary golf course. What you get is a 7,454 yard par 67 monster that the pros averaged +7 on.

So, what would you shoot?

Hole no.

Course (Tournament)

Par

Ydg.

Stroke avg.

Overall rank

1

Augusta National (Masters)

4

445

4.304

42nd

2

Valhalla (PGA Championship)

4

500

4.362

19th

3

TPC Four Seasons (AT&T; Byron Nelson)

4

528

4.350

23rd

4

Augusta National (Masters)

3

240

3.409

9th

5

Cherry Hills (BMW)

4

526

4.483

1st

6

PGA National (Honda)

4

479

4.442

6th

7

Trump National Doral (WGC-Cadillac)

4

471

4.417

7th

8

Pinehurst No. 2 (U.S. Open)

4

486

4.336

32nd

9

Pebble Beach (AT&T; Pebble Beach)

4

466

4.376

14th

10

Pebble Beach (AT&T; Pebble Beach)

4

446

4.463

4th

11

Congressional (QL National)

4

489

4.482

2nd

12

Pebble Beach (AT&T; Pebble Beach)

3

202

3.394

11th

13

Trump National Doral (WGC-Cadillac)

3

238

3.277

55th

14

Harbour Town (RBC Heritage)

3

192

3.393

12th

15

TPC Four Seasons (AT&T; Byron Nelson)

4

504

4.288

50th

16

Pinehurst No. 2 (U.S. Open)

4

528

4.341

28th

17

Quail Hollow (Wells Fargo)

3

221

3.342

27th

18

Quail Hollow (Wells Fargo)

4

493

4.452

5th

Total

67

7,454

73.911

http://www.pgatour.com/news/2014/10/02/toughest-holes-by-hole-number.html

[BENtSwing]

Someone has too much time on their hands

[flopster]

Though I feel I could eventually manage something in the 90's I know those par3's are absolute murder and I know from personal experience what tough par 3's do to a score, One of the 3's at my home course is a flat out monster and it's not just because it's long it's also no guarantee to get on with your second unless it's right in front of the green, something about tough par 3's just make this game not very fun.

[Abu3baid]

I would shoot a whopping 67 * 2 = 134

or maybe I would do better.. I feel like 134 is such a high number.. but yeah I'm sticking to it.. 134

[boogielicious]

That would be pure evil @billchao !  I said 100+.

[liquor box]

Take the 18 toughest holes by each hole number on the PGA Tour this year and make them into an imaginary golf course. What you get is a 7,454 yard par 67 monster that the pros averaged +7 on.

So, what would you shoot?

http://www.pgatour.com/news/2014/10/02/toughest-holes-by-hole-number.html

I have often thought that with all of the money that is in the middle east a sheik with too much money should build a course that features exact replicas of famous golf holes, not necessarily the hardest holes but the famous ones. Imagine having amen corner, the road hole and the island hole in the same round.

As for my score, if the greens were at PGA level then I think 121 (triple on every hole) with greens somewhat suited to normal golfer then I think 103 (double every hole)

[flopster]

I have often thought that with all of the money that is in the middle east a sheik with too much money should build a course that features exact replicas of famous golf holes, not necessarily the hardest holes but the famous ones. Imagine having amen corner, the road hole and the island hole in the same round.

As for my score, if the greens were at PGA level then I think 121 (triple on every hole) with greens somewhat suited to normal golfer then I think 103 (double every hole)

You  mean something like this place?

http://www.golftexas.com/departments/coursereviews/tour-18-houston-humble-13795.htm

[RandallT]

You  mean something like this place? [URL=http://www.golftexas.com/departments/coursereviews/tour-18-houston-humble-13795.htm]http://www.golftexas.com/departments/coursereviews/tour-18-houston-humble-13795.htm[/URL]

http://www.renditionsgolf.com/-golf-course This is our area course like that. I definitely wanna try it sometime. On the OP's question, I think each hole might be one stroke worse than I normally shoot. That makes 30 over par or so. 97. On an executive course basically! 5 par 3a, rest par 4s.

[14ledo81]

Over 100 for sure.

[BuckeyeNut]

course setup and the conditions of play are everything...................if the course is rock hard with US open style rough, it could get ugly.    If it's normal playing conditions.....I should card a score in the 80s with no problem on the above course.  It's a combo of long 3's and 4's.................a long executive course!  HEH

Hell...if I play well, I can break 80!!

[David in FL]

I'd expect to be somewhere in the early 90's... Maybe an occasional dip into the 80's . Of course I don't always do what I expect to do.....

[billchao]

That would be pure evil @billchao !  I said 100+.

I also said 100+, but that's what I'd shoot on any one of these courses anyway, without hand picking the hardest holes and putting them together.

[iacas]

course setup and the conditions of play are everything...................if the course is rock hard with US open style rough, it could get ugly.    If it's normal playing conditions.....I should card a score in the 80s with no problem on the above course.  It's a combo of long 3's and 4's.................a long executive course!  HEH

Hell...if I play well, I can break 80!!

You saw that the PGA Tour average was 79.xx right?

I would not break 80, and I'm playing reasonably well right now.

I would break 80 if you let me play a three-ball scramble.

[billchao]

You saw that the PGA Tour average was 79.xx right? I would not break 80, and I'm playing reasonably well right now. I would break 80 if you let me play a three-ball scramble.

It's 74, but yea I agree he's overestimating.

[iacas]

It's 74, but yea I agree he's overestimating.

Oh. 73.9. I think I remembered 79.3. Or maybe I remembered +7 and forgot that it wasn't par 72.

Whatever, I was wrong. 74. So yeah, those are PGA Tour players, not a 3 handicap…

[flopster]

Oh. 73.9. I think I remembered 79.3. Or maybe I remembered +7 and forgot that it wasn't par 72.

Whatever, I was wrong. 74. So yeah, those are PGA Tour players, not a 3 handicap…

What I don't think some here may realize is some of these par 3's are made in a way that hitting the green from the tee is almost easier than around the green if that's at all believable, some of the greens are setup like #12 at augusta where the green may be long but it runs side to side so depth is not there and it could just be a mound across it where getting a short sided chip from a collection area to hold is next to impossible, basically you have to miss at one end in order to have a fairly easy shot on, when these holes are built the architects usually don't want to give a player an easy up and down from any angle.