Six-Inch Holes and 12-Hole Courses

[Fourputt]

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Originally Posted by HeGotGame

maybe a  6 inch diameter hole from the 4.25? And how about instead of 18 hole courses, maybe have 12 or 13 hole courses?

Maybe the 6 inch diameter hole would allow people to enjoy making more putts and scoring a little better to enjoy the game.

And I personally love playing 18 holes, but think that maybe it would be more enjoyable playing a 12 or 13 hole round instead. I feel like 9 holes isn't enough, but I sometimes think 18 is to long as I do tend to get tired by the end, and when the pace of play is really slow it becomes dragged out and disinteresting to a point.

These are just my opinions and just throwing them out there to get an opinion on what others think about this.

Heck, I'm rarely satisfied with 18 holes of golf, don't you shorten it on me!

Same here.  I'm happy with 18, and don't mind playing more when I get the chance.

And a big NO!! to 6" holes.  I would emphatically oppose any change in the size of the hole.

[rob0225]

maybe a  6 inch diameter hole from the 4.25? And how about instead of 18 hole courses, maybe have 12 or 13 hole courses?

Maybe the 6 inch diameter hole would allow people to enjoy making more putts and scoring a little better to enjoy the game.

And I personally love playing 18 holes, but think that maybe it would be more enjoyable playing a 12 or 13 hole round instead. I feel like 9 holes isn't enough, but I sometimes think 18 is to long as I do tend to get tired by the end, and when the pace of play is really slow it becomes dragged out and disinteresting to a point.

These are just my opinions and just throwing them out there to get an opinion on what others think about this.

The answer isn't to change the standard and make it easier, practice more and become better.  Seems to be the typical answer in this day and age if someone can't accomplish something is to change the standard/rules.

As far as getting tired after 18 holes of golf...get in better shape.  And you always have the option to quit after 13 holes.

[Jon Hoover]

[Grumpter]

Reminds me of the commercial where the gimmies keep getting further and further away.

[Dave2512]

1-You can always play less than 18 holes

2-Most golfers on this forum probably average right around 2 putts a hole, just under or just over so making the hole just a little bigger wouldn't impact their scores much.

[Osnola]

The format and rules of golf as they currently stand are fine.  Why would you want to change it, to make it less challenging?  Kinda like what James Harrison says about his two boys getting a trophy just for participating...My personal feeling--leave the game alone.  People need to quit advocating the "easy way" and get back to old school thinking--like practicing more, working at it a little bit.

I am a senior guy (66) and would like to score better, but not at the expense of the integrity of the game.  Yes, I get tired after 14 holes, but there is something in me that says, "keep going, you can finish--if you quit now you will never know what it feels like to finish"...I went through sports in HS and College being taught that you will never overcome if you do not persevere.  Military training was the same way.  Be an overcomer, not one that shrinks at a challenge or obstacle...

[Lihu]

1-You can always play less than 18 holes

2-Most golfers on this forum probably average right around 2 putts a hole, just under or just over so making the hole just a little bigger wouldn't impact their scores much.

Guessing not too many tap in pars or bogeys?

[Dave2512]

Guessing not too many tap in pars or bogeys?

Yes lot's of them but not too many that are just 1.75" inch-ish away.

[ccotenj]

now we are talking!   even i could putt decently with a hole that size...

i wish it was "just a matter of practice" (maybe for some it is)...   i don't know how many hours i spent on a putting green between the ages of 8 and 20, but it was a LOT, and i was NEVER a good putter...  i was barely mediocre...

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

Guessing not too many tap in pars or bogeys?

Yes lot's of them but not too many that are just 1.75" inch-ish away.

Right.

[Jon Hoover]

They should make the cups smaller, I don't know if any of the courses you guys play at have this but, on the practice green at my course, they have smaller cups just slightly larger then a ball. I always love warming up putting before a round using those. After making putts in the smaller holes going back to your standard cup size is easy.

[Lihu]

They should make the cups smaller, I don't know if any of the courses you guys play at have this but, on the practice green at my course, they have smaller cups just slightly larger then a ball. I always love warming up putting before a round using those. After making putts in the smaller holes going back to your standard cup size is easy.

We have them for practice. The game is usually to start at 1 foot and once you make 2 in a row move back a foot and stay at that distance until you make 2 in a row before moving back more. . .

If the courses changed to these 2" holes, I can see myself making one more putt per hole. That could easily add 15-16 strokes per round.

[Grumpter]

They should make the cups smaller, I don't know if any of the courses you guys play at have this but, on the practice green at my course, they have smaller cups just slightly larger then a ball. I always love warming up putting before a round using those. After making putts in the smaller holes going back to your standard cup size is easy.

I have seen and used them on practice greens. I could just see some of the courses I have played putting one of those on a break in the green. It makes me want to slap the guy who cuts the holes when they are regulation size. At a smaller size I might go ballistic. I see no need to make the cups smaller.

[RGoosen]

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Funny :) I actually played in a local executive course one time where every green had a regular size cup and then a much larger cup (8 inches?). We would putt to both on birdie putts just to see how much a difference it made. To sum it up...it is hard to get excited about hitting a birdie putt in a gigantic cup. It is kind of like dunking on an 8 foot goal or beating a video game on the easy mode.

[Duff McGee]

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I love that the guy is still reading his putt.

[RandallT]

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Originally Posted by Jon Hoover

Funny :)

I actually played in a local executive course one time where every green had a regular size cup and then a much larger cup (8 inches?). We would putt to both on birdie putts just to see how much a difference it made.

To sum it up...it is hard to get excited about hitting a birdie putt in a gigantic cup. It is kind of like dunking on an 8 foot goal or beating a video game on the easy mode.

In the big picture, we should all want sports to be ones where there is a broad differentiation of skill levels. What fun would a sport be where nearly everyone could achieve great performance with minimal effort. That would actually detract from the sport.

Why would someone want to try hard at a sport, if it only meant a small amount of differentiation from someone just starting out? That would seem pointless- to dedicate yourself to something, and then see only modest improvement in results.

I want a sport that is deviously difficult, but with some moderate effort, I can see some moderate improvement. With maximal effort, I want to see great improvement (assuming I had the talent, and my effort was smart effort).

And for the upper echelons of the sport, I'd like to see talent factor in, but I want to see a wide gulf between their performance and mine. Golf has it all.

If we dilute the skill required to putt, that takes away an element where people can differentiate themselves. (I suppose it's possible that the better putters will just hit more from longer range, but how boring it would be if everything inside 8 or 10 feet is very makable).  That would be eminently boring. No thanks.

Edit: Hey @Duff McGee the guy in my avatar missed his "gimmie"!

[Duff McGee]

In the big picture, we should all want sports to be ones where there is a broad differentiation of skill levels. What fun would a sport be where nearly everyone could achieve great performance with minimal effort. That would actually detract from the sport. Why would someone want to try hard at a sport, if it only meant a small amount of differentiation from someone just starting out? That would seem pointless- to dedicate yourself to something, and then see only modest improvement in results. I want a sport that is deviously difficult, but with some moderate effort, I can see some moderate improvement. With maximal effort, I want to see great improvement (assuming I had the talent, and my effort was smart effort).  And for the upper echelons of the sport, I'd like to see talent factor in, but I want to see a wide gulf between their performance and mine. Golf has it all. If we dilute the skill required to putt, that takes away an element where people can differentiate themselves. (I suppose it's possible that the better putters will just hit more from longer range, but how boring it would be if everything inside 8 or 10 feet is very makable).  That would be eminently boring. No thanks. Edit: Hey @Duff McGee the guy in my avatar missed his "gimmie"!

Ha that picture actually makes me more nervous than excited. I still see myself missing it somehow.

[RussUK]

Ha that picture actually makes me more nervous than excited. I still see myself missing it somehow.

think of it this way. Guy goes to get his ball, falls in. "Can someone get me a ladder?"