How does this position happen?

[nevets88]

I'm guessing more of weight forward, right side bend. head steady (w/respect to going forward). Also. I'm guessing this amount of right side bend requires more flexibility than normal? This guy almost made himself into a right angle.

[SavvySwede]

I'd guess it's more about core strength than flexibility to be able to hold that position that late into the follow through.

[iacas]

18 minutes ago, SavvySwede said:

I'd guess it's more about core strength than flexibility to be able to hold that position that late into the follow through.

He's not "holding" that position though. It's dynamic. You can attain a lot of positions dynamically that you can't (or would have trouble) getting into statically.

Pose at the top of your backswing and hold it for even a few seconds… you'll probably start to uncoil. And that's a slower motion anyway (right around transition).

Looks like Paula Creamer, years ago. Or Gulbis.

[SavvySwede]

4 minutes ago, iacas said:

He's not "holding" that position though. It's dynamic. You can attain a lot of positions dynamically that you can't (or would have trouble) getting into statically.

Pose at the top of your backswing and hold it for even a few seconds… you'll probably start to uncoil. And that's a slower motion anyway (right around transition).

Looks like Paula Creamer, years ago. Or Gulbis.

True, but wouldn't one need good* core strength to make that move dynamically? Good*- being better than your average golfer?

[iacas]

Just now, SavvySwede said:

True, but wouldn't one need good* core strength to make that move dynamically? Good*- being better than your average golfer?

I think I could do it. I think you'd be surprised at the positions you can get into…

Yes, there's some base level of flexibility and core strength. And maybe I'm better than the average golfer in both respects (I probably am, now that I think about it, so I'm almost talking myself into agreeing now). So… I don't know.  I'll stop typing now.

[RandallT]

This might seem a bit bizarre thought, but I liken this to a singer who really belts it out. Pours their heart out into a song. Throws caution to the wind and puts it all out there.

Not to make this all about me, but I feel like in my swing, I'm tentative and there's not a chance in the world I would get to a position like that. I'm more reserved and those few moments after impact, I feel like I want to straighten up and get back in control instinctively.

But what I feel I see in the top swings is that they let themselves get very loose, maybe not as dynamic as that pic though. That whole belt pointing to the sky, arch in the back as you pose, weight totally on the front foot- that's tough to let yourself go and do (for me anyway). I feel like I straighten up and stop my swing pretty soon so I'd stay cautious and not ever reach that position above. The problem is not so much intellectually learning the best way follow through, it's letting myself go and be really athletic like I see in that pic (in the way that a singer becomes truly dynamic, gotta just let yourself go).

So my thought to answer your "How does this position happen?" is to answer the negative. It won't happen if you're a cautious, reserved swinger. I feel like I could reach those positions as far as strength and flexibility. But I just can't by my "nature."

Is there anything to that (for golfers in general, not just me), or am I just blowing smoke?

[nevets88]

Here's another one, only difference is the rear foot is almost completely off the ground. Interesting how that changes exit conditions.

 

[SavvySwede]

9 minutes ago, RandallT said:

This might seem a bit bizarre thought, but I liken this to a singer who really belts it out. Pours their heart out into a song. Throws caution to the wind and puts it all out there.

Not to make this all about me, but I feel like in my swing, I'm tentative and there's not a chance in the world I would get to a position like that. I'm more reserved and those few moments after impact, I feel like I want to straighten up and get back in control instinctively.

But what I feel I see in the top swings is that they let themselves get very loose, maybe not as dynamic as that pic though. That whole belt pointing to the sky, arch in the back as you pose, weight totally on the front foot- that's tough to let yourself go and do (for me anyway). I feel like I straighten up and stop my swing pretty soon so I'd stay cautious and not ever reach that position above. The problem is not so much intellectually learning the best way follow through, it's letting myself go and be really athletic like I see in that pic (in the way that a singer becomes truly dynamic, gotta just let yourself go).

So my thought to answer your "How does this position happen?" is to answer the negative. It won't happen if you're a cautious, reserved swinger. I feel like I could reach those positions as far as strength and flexibility. But I just can't by my "nature."

Is there anything to that (for golfers in general, not just me), or am I just blowing smoke?

 

I think the biggest thing is really getting the left hip turned out and behind the golfer so there is room to stay in that position.

[saevel25]

51 minutes ago, SavvySwede said:

I'd guess it's more about core strength than flexibility to be able to hold that position that late into the follow through.

Not really. If he was actually holding it a the finish then yes. His momentum should be carrying himself opposite in the way his body would want to fall over. The club is moving up. His hip is moving up. Yet his body would probably want to fall down. I think just the turn and movements allow him to get into the position for the short time he is in this position in the swing. 
 

7 minutes ago, SavvySwede said:

 

I think the biggest thing is really getting the left hip turned out and behind the golfer so there is room to stay in that position.

Maybe I would think of it as since his weight is near the front heel of his left foot then that keeps him from tilting towards the right there. If his weight was more on the balls or toes of his left foot then he would probably topple over. 

[SavvySwede]

5 hours ago, saevel25 said:

6 hours ago, SavvySwede said:

I'd guess it's more about core strength than flexibility to be able to hold that position that late into the follow through.

Not really. If he was actually holding it a the finish then yes. His momentum should be carrying himself opposite in the way his body would want to fall over. The club is moving up. His hip is moving up. Yet his body would probably want to fall down. I think just the turn and movements allow him to get into the position for the short time he is in this position in the swing. 
 

5 hours ago, SavvySwede said:

 

I think the biggest thing is really getting the left hip turned out and behind the golfer so there is room to stay in that position.

Maybe I would think of it as since his weight is near the front heel of his left foot then that keeps him from tilting towards the right there. If his weight was more on the balls or toes of his left foot then he would probably topple over. 

 

I'd say those are two different feels that are accomplishing the same thing but yeah.

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