Different swing for Driver and Irons

[DrvFrShow]

Irons - keeping the right elbow closer to the body on the backswing.

Driver - wide takeaway for more distance and so I don't get stuck. This club takes a lot more practice than my irons. I'm starting to get it now. But I have to hit about 40 balls each session with it. My goal this year is to get the distance and keep it in the short grass. This will help reduce the second shots to 9 irons on most of my par 4s. I play the tee it forward. I see the pros hitting 8 and 9 irons into greens on par 4s so why shouldn't I have the same fun?

[vangator]

5 hours ago, DrvFrShow said:

Irons - keeping the right elbow closer to the body on the backswing.

Driver - wide takeaway for more distance and so I don't get stuck. This club takes a lot more practice than my irons. I'm starting to get it now. But I have to hit about 40 balls each session with it. My goal this year is to get the distance and keep it in the short grass. This will help reduce the second shots to 9 irons on most of my par 4s. I play the tee it forward. I see the pros hitting 8 and 9 irons into greens on par 4s so why shouldn't I have the same fun?

I have the same kind of swing for my irons and driver.

I play the tips.  I like pain.

[GolfLug]

No difference really. Driver can feel a bit more around the body though.

[vangator]

3 hours ago, vangator said:

I have the same kind of swing for my irons and driver.

I play the tips.  I like pain.

DrvFrShow, I just re-read my post and I wanted to clarify.  I meant to say I have the same kind of swing as you for my irons and driver.

[saevel25]

Here are the difference I do. 

1. I put slightly more tilt in my set up to promote hitting up on the ball
2. I move the ball more forward, just past my left arm pit. 

That's about it. Just a few set up changes. Then I just swing normal. Typically I hit a slight push draw, or a straight cut when I am swinging well. 

[vangator]

27 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Here are the difference I do. 

1. I put slightly more tilt in my set up to promote hitting up on the ball
2. I move the ball more forward, just past my left arm pit. 

That's about it. Just a few set up changes. Then I just swing normal. Typically I hit a slight push draw, or a straight cut when I am swinging well. 

I'm not sure I believe that.  Look at your avatar.  You telling me you swing your driver like that?  Must be one of those mini-mini drivers.

[saevel25]

6 minutes ago, vangator said:

I'm not sure I believe that.  Look at your avatar.  You telling me you swing your driver like that?  Must be one of those mini-mini drivers.

Umm what does my avatar have anything to do with it. That's a 7 iron in that image. 

[vangator]

1 minute ago, saevel25 said:

Umm what does my avatar have anything to do with it. That's a 7 iron in that image. 

If that was a driver in your hands, you think you would look like that at that same point in your swing?

[saevel25]

11 minutes ago, vangator said:

If that was a driver in your hands, you think you would look like that at that same point in your swing?

Not as steep because a driver naturally produces a flatter swing. Yet I was always steep in the downswing. The set up changes do promote hitting up and a slightly more inward path with out changing your swing mechanics. 

[iacas]

9 hours ago, vangator said:

If that was a driver in your hands, you think you would look like that at that same point in your swing?

He would and does. The shaft is a bit flatter, of course, but the body positions are similar.

[Golfer2223]

Saevel if that is your swing in the picture the problem is you're completing the plane too early (across the line/steep whatever they may call it). The grip at that point should be pointing outside the ball, with longer clubs as much as 2-3 feet outside the ball. Your grip end is pointing inside the ball. I will go into more detail later today.

[saevel25]

3 minutes ago, Golfer2223 said:

The grip at that point should be pointing outside the ball, with longer clubs as much as 2-3 feet outside the ball. Your grip end is pointing inside the ball. I will go into more detail later today.

Please don't. I have a very good instructor and I am working on my swing. This thread is not a place to discuss my swing. I appreciate your input, but I like the direction I am going with what I am working on right now. 

[Golfer2223]

That's great! Here in NY it is too cold to swing, so I have time to offer what I've learned to all golfers. Was going to use you as an example to explain a concept. Teaching online is not really possible. I apologize for not asking if I could use you as an example, and I will just talk generally. In discussing what you're trying to do with your swing in this thread, you brought up an interesting point about the wide takeaway. I believe this is widely discussed and taught, but not understood by many. I think I have a pretty good explanation for it, I will make it a new post.

[iacas]

23 minutes ago, Golfer2223 said:

Teaching online is not really possible.

This is not the topic here, but I strongly disagree with that.

Also, Matt's avatar isn't shot from the right angle, either. HIs shaft is pointing awfully close to his baseline, which is fine.

Again, though, it's off topic for here, so let's leave it there. Start new topics if you want.

[Golfer2223]

You're welcome to disagree. I see there are different forums now, just started on here, appreciate the slack.

I'm aware of the angle. I cannot upload the screenshot because the file is more than 2.44mb, but there is a good video of Mcilroy from the same angle. If you go to youtube and search Rory Mcilroy slow motion swing sequence, the iron view starts at :34. I was looking at the three quarter position on the backswing.

 

Edited February 13, 2016 by Golfer2223

[iacas]

@Golfer2223, please start a new topic if you want to cover something outside this topic.

And embed YouTube videos here please. Consult the How To menu at the top if you're not sure how.

[vangator]

11 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Not as steep because a driver naturally produces a flatter swing. Yet I was always steep in the downswing. The set up changes do promote hitting up and a slightly more inward path with out changing your swing mechanics. 

So you're saying a flatter and a steeper swing is the same?

[iacas]

1 minute ago, vangator said:

So you're saying a flatter and a steeper swing is the same?

If that's the only difference I would say they have a lot more the same than not. Are the swings a golfer makes with a 5I and a 7I "the same"?