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hello, I am a 3.4 handicap and I am 15 years old. I'm seeking advice on how to start my downswing. I've been told that I should try to make my right shoulder change places with my left shoulder (I am left handed). I've also been told to try to shift my hips towards the target and keep body closed. I can show swing video if need be. thank you :)))

 

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Stuff and nonsense.  Old people are full of crap.  Look up Paul Wilson on You Tube (the king of the lazy swing) and figure out what you can use.  My guess is something...which is better odds than most.

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Wait a minute. You're a 3.4 index and need tips on starting your downswing? And you're 15 years old? I'd say you're on a really good track! I wouldn't think that you need too many tips on anything. Just keep doing what you're doing. You are now in the realm of golf where improvement comes slowly, stroke by stroke.

I understand it's a function of youth to be impatient. You want it now! Well, golf ain't that way! Just keep at it. Learn yourself as much as you learn the game. You are at the point in life where you are just beginning to grow into your strength. As strong as you feel now, it won't compare to how you feel at 19, or at 22, or at 25!

Have just a bit of patience. You're not quite ready for the tour, yet!

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12 minutes ago, seanoando said:

hello, I am a 3.4 handicap and I am 15 years old. I'm seeking advice on how to start my downswing.

If you do a lot right with your backswing then you get a lot for free on the downswing. 

That being said, downswing feels depend on the golfer. Some might feel their left knee turn. Some might feel arms. Some might feel torso turn. Some might feel their right side or right hip pocket turning. Though people can say what the correct sequencing is. Doing it, and developing the feel for it is individual based. 

 

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2 hours ago, Piz said:

Stuff and nonsense.  Old people are full of crap.  Look up Paul Wilson on You Tube (the king of the lazy swing) and figure out what you can use.  My guess is something...which is better odds than most.

Here he is.

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I'm heading out soon, but if that video is the same one I think it is, it's pretty bad…

Your arms still DO things on the downswing. There's no such thing as lazy. Even in the pitching motion we teach where your arms come close to doing nothing, they still do a little bit.

And @seanoando, post your swing in a Member Swing thread and we'll have a look. Ignore those who almost make fun of you for being a 3.4 and wanting to get better…

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Piz Great Member

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I like to loosen up this way...to remind myself that the arms are just along for the ride.  Sorry about the tone of the post.  Reading it now is kind of embarrassing.  Me giving advice to a 3.5?  That's a laugh.

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I bet the guy in that video also sells affordable flooring. 

But for me, i actually don't have a downswing thought. The only thing going through my brain is "HIT THE BALL! ARRRGH! 

Ummm...yeah... I have a trigger though, which i feel like is when my lead shoulder passes under my chin. At that point, i reverse direction. I don't have a mechanical thing i do, its just an instinct at that point for me. If you're playing 3 handicap golf, chances are you have a similar players instinct. Trust it and don't bog yourself down in golfs endless void of mechanical psycho babble. 


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14 hours ago, iacas said:

I'm heading out soon, but if that video is the same one I think it is, it's pretty bad…

Your arms still DO things on the downswing. There's no such thing as lazy. Even in the pitching motion we teach where your arms come close to doing nothing, they still do a little bit.

And @seanoando, post your swing in a Member Swing thread and we'll have a look. Ignore those who almost make fun of you for being a 3.4 and wanting to get better…

If that was directed at me, I wasn't making fun in the least little bit! I would have been delighted to be 3.4 at 15 years old! I also would have wanted to be scratch!

As I said before, it's a function of youth to be impatient. Age throws a little different perspective on you. I figure that if he just keeps working at his game steadily, improvement will come over time. He's nowhere near as strong and physically skilled as he will be in a just a few years.

Besides, when you're shooting in the mid-70's, this is where improvement doesn't happen in jumps. Not like jumping from mid 90's to mid to high 80's from a short series of lessons. This is where improvement comes one hard earned stroke after another.

I wish the young man much luck. Maybe we'll be watching him on TV in 10 years. Hell, I hope I'm still alive in 10 years! See what I mean about perspective?

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15 hours ago, iacas said:

I'm heading out soon, but if that video is the same one I think it is, it's pretty bad…

Your arms still DO things on the downswing. There's no such thing as lazy. Even in the pitching motion we teach where your arms come close to doing nothing, they still do a little bit.

And @seanoando, post your swing in a Member Swing thread and we'll have a look. Ignore those who almost make fun of you for being a 3.4 and wanting to get better…

just posted a video the swing section :)

22 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

If that was directed at me, I wasn't making fun in the least little bit! I would have been delighted to be 3.4 at 15 years old! I also would have wanted to be scratch!

As I said before, it's a function of youth to be impatient. Age throws a little different perspective on you. I figure that if he just keeps working at his game steadily, improvement will come over time. He's nowhere near as strong and physically skilled as he will be in a just a few years.

Besides, when you're shooting in the mid-70's, this is where improvement doesn't happen in jumps. Not like jumping from mid 90's to mid to high 80's from a short series of lessons. This is where improvement comes one hard earned stroke after another.

I wish the young man much luck. Maybe we'll be watching him on TV in 10 years. Hell, I hope I'm still alive in 10 years! See what I mean about perspective?

haha! I appreciate your view and it is great to hear some advice like that! I've only been playing for 3 years and it's crazy to see how far I've come. 


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7 minutes ago, seanoando said:

just posted a video the swing section :)

haha! I appreciate your view and it is great to hear some advice like that! I've only been playing for 3 years and it's crazy to see how far I've come. 

Wow! If you can get to a 3.4 in 3 years, you must have mad skills! Finding that out leads me to believe that you also have an instructor. If so, I would stick to that guy like glue! He obviously knows what he's doing.

Look forward to seeing your seeing your swing on the My Swing page.

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22 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

If that was directed at me…

It wasn't. You didn't even post a video. It was directed at the post immediately before mine. The one with a video in it… ;-)

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You're a 3.4 HC and asking a bunch of 15.5 HCers for advice? :-O Well I can say is Freddy is the man.

 

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