OT Stuff from the MO'G Topic

[Yff Theos]

4 minutes ago, iacas said:

You can wear multiple hats. I've invented several things, for example.

Mac hasn't "set a new trend" or "found a new solution" in over a decade.

Certainly he did better than you. Noone speaks about your trend that does not exist, yet everyone in the serious golf community knows Mac and MORAD.

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Yff Theos said:

Certainly he did better than you. Noone speaks about your trend that does not exist, yet everyone in the serious golf community knows Mac and MORAD.

What trend has Mac set in the last decade? Two decades?

And as for "nobody" and "does not exist," you don't even know what you're talking about. We hear from people daily about the things we've created - or "invented" - that have made a positive change to the way they play the game of golf.

Everything I've said here has been based on fact. You can't say the same for what you've said, particularly of me.

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For the last time: get back on topic.

[Yff Theos]

12 minutes ago, iacas said:

What trend has Mac set in the last decade? Two decades?

Let me explain it to you, I am the best example. I was looking for a model pattern that I could use in my teachings. I chose Mac as my basic pattern. He set a pattern that was used by many, including your friends from S&T. I still can see prominent pros that use Mac's patterns. If you are able to present to us an interview or speech in which Mac O'Grady says that the current technique (which is iridiculous n many examples) is what we all want to know -- I'll think it over. Unfortunately for you, you can present nothing in this spirit instead of putting yourself on a pedestal higher than Mac was on this forum.

[iacas]

There's so much wrong with that comment that it's simply not worth the time - and I'm snowed in, currently, and looking for any excuse not to snowblow another 12" of snow from today alone - to respond as I usually do.

I'll simply say:

• Mac is not the authority on what is or isn't good about instruction.
• That video doesn't exist, because, duh, why would it?
• I never claimed to be better than Mac, or put myself on a pedestal. I simply said I wear multiple hats, and have contributed more recently than Mac.
• I wrote that Mac hasn't contributed anything in decades. Has he? You can't/won't answer. He hasn't.
• You don't know squat about me, man. That's particularly evident if you think I have friends in S&T. That's comical for reasons you can't even begin to understand.
• You're still wrong about the knees.
• You've never shared your name. I do with every post. Man up. Who are you?
• If modern golf instruction is "ridiculous" in many ways, that'd be something to talk about! That's a great topic! Discuss that! Talk about that! But you don't.

I'm close to permanently banning you. You're contributing nothing - you're just being an ass. You're not asking questions, you're not sharing or discussing theories. Not lately. You're not respectful of the work I've done, the information I've shared. You're not open minded to the experiences I've shared - and that many, many others have backed, so it's not like it's just me. You're an ass, and all because we didn't deify a dude who contributed some things to golf quite awhile ago and who had and has his flaws, too.

So… why are you still here? Because if it's just to take shots at me, then go away.

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For the last time: get back on topic.

Hint: this entire last few lines of conversation is NOT "getting back on topic."

[Mr. Desmond]

2 hours ago, Yff Theos said:

…everyone in the serious golf community knows Mac and MORAD.

Everyone has heard of Mac and MORAD - who hasn't? But only a small, if still existent group, knows anything about Mac these days. And they can't talk, or else they get thrown out of the group, if it still exists. Mac is one of those mysteries, like UFO's.

[Yff Theos]

Lmao...banning me permanently. Boy, listen to me and think. Banning me for what? For pointing it out that I said you're nothing compared to Mac? Supposedly this is the forum for freethinkers, much better than wrx ever been. In the end it appeared it is the same old shit, named the owner always is right. When you were right I gladly accepted and admitted. When I was right I felt I should have not been there despite the promises it was the place for freethinkers because of you and your friend working together as Pixie and Dixie. Ban me immediately.

[Yff Theos]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

Everyone has heard of Mac and MORAD - who hasn't? But only a small, if still existent group, knows anything about Mac these days. And they can't talk, or else they get thrown out of the group, if it still exists. Mac is one of those mysteries, like UFO's.

That is the point. I am here to discuss Mac's ideas.

[iacas]

4 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

That is the point. I am here to discuss Mac's ideas.

Then ****ing do it. You haven't done much of it lately, or ever.

But - and here's what you don't seem to get - @mvmac, myself, etc. (many of whom have far more experience teaching than you, and far more experience with Mac than you) - are allowed to respond, too. GIve our opinions weight, don't… I don't care. But you don't get to be a jerk about it.

[Mr. Desmond]

5 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

That is the point. I am here to discuss Mac's ideas.

The other point is "Who knows about Mac's current theories?"

If you know, do what Iacas asks. Discuss them because no one seems to know his current contributions to the game.

[Yff Theos]

32 minutes ago, iacas said:

OT crap moved.

Discuss Mac's theories or his swings or his patterns here, with the understanding that everyone gets to contribute.

Good. You can only discuss ideas that you like. In case someone bring arguments to what you're speechless, the only one thing you can do is to delete posts. Briliant.

 

33 minutes ago, billchao said:

Please, do. From what I've seen so far, you don't actually know them, and if you do, you're not actually sharing your ideas. 

You've studied his swings and come up with your own theories as to the things he does, but you've never met him or attended his clinics, correct? It seems as if you're just trying to pick other people's brains for information without providing much of your own.

From my very first post I tried to discuss Mac's ideas. What I encountered? That I put Mac on a pedestal despite I was ensured there is a place to discuss everything I want. Moreover, I was threatened to be banned from the forum, something it was not done even on the other shitty forum. In response to what, when I tried to defend my point of view bringing sane arguments, when returning I have seen the discussion is removed because someone in charge did not like what I said. Look back to my posts and to the discussion (unless my posts have been removed recently to help protagonists of this forum win. It is a joke.

 

[iacas]

3 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

Good. You can only discuss ideas that you like. In case someone bring arguments to what you're speechless, the only one thing you can do is to delete posts. Briliant.

Your issue is actually that I'm not speechless about the things with which I disagree.

I didn't delete a single one of your posts. I moved them. As noted.

7 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

From my very first post I tried to discuss Mac's ideas.

You're just continuing down the same road as before. So now these two posts will get moved, too.

7 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

That I put Mac on a pedestal despite I was ensured there is a place to discuss everything I want.

You do put him on a pedestal, IMO.

7 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

Moreover, I was threatened to be banned from the forum, something it was not done even on the other shitty forum.

Because you are behaving like a jerk.

7 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

In response to what, when I tried to defend my point of view bringing sane arguments

You didn't "bring sane arguments." You attacked me, claimed I'd contributed nothing, blah blah blah.

You're still doing this crap

Get back to discussing Mac, or GTFO.

7 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

when returning I have seen the discussion is removed because someone in charge did not like what I said.

Everything you said in that sentence is wrong.

• The content was not removed. It was moved.
• The content that was moved was moved because it had nothing to do with this topic. It was just you being a jerk. That's why it was moved. The moderators recommended it.

7 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

Look back to my posts and to the discussion (unless my posts have been removed recently to help protagonists of this forum win. It is a joke.

Your ability to understand the basic logistics and chain of events is a joke.

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The site has one rule: "behave maturely." You're failing at that.

https://thesandtrap.com/guidelines/

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14 minutes ago, Yff Theos said:

Good. You can only discuss ideas that you like. In case someone bring arguments to what you're speechless, the only one thing you can do is to delete posts. Briliant.

From my very first post I tried to discuss Mac's ideas. What I encountered? That I put Mac on a pedestal despite I was ensured there is a place to discuss everything I want. Moreover, I was threatened to be banned from the forum, something it was not done even on the other shitty forum. In response to what, when I tried to defend my point of view bringing sane arguments, when returning I have seen the discussion is removed because someone in charge did not like what I said. Look back to my posts and to the discussion (unless my posts have been removed recently to help protagonists of this forum win. It is a joke.

Please, tell me, where in that entire post - quoted in its entirety - do you get back to discussing Mac, MORAD, swing theories, ideas, concepts, or anything remotely resembling any of that stuff?

You don't. You don't even come close.

[MuniGrit]

Mac didn't win more because of two things and one was not ball striking. He was a horrific putter and he had no game management on how to score.

[iacas]

4 minutes ago, MuniGrit said:

Mac didn't win more because of two things and one was not ball striking. He was a horrific putter and he had no game management on how to score.

@MuniGrit, this is as off topic as anything else. And once again, quite likely wrong. I'm not interested in repeating myself.

Sticking to the topic goes for all. And this waste of a topic is locked.

[Yff Theos]

I have been issued another warning, hell knows why. What I know, especially after your answer, iacas, that I do not want to argue with kids. I can answer your above points WITH EASE, but it would provoke another "warning" ROFL.

P.S. There was a post about Mac's ballstriking (thus, on topic) after mine that contained no taboo words or anything wrong, yet, it has been removed, Congratulations, your forum have just reached the status of worse than wrx. Go to hell.

[iacas]

Wow. You really, really don't get it.

@Phil McGleno, I'm in that same camp with you. What a joke.

:sigh:

1 hour ago, Yff Theos said:

I have been issued another warning, hell knows why

Really?

Seems pretty obvious to me, right there in "Note for member."