What makes up a sand save?

[dennyjones]

I believe I understand a sand save to be making par from a green side bunker but I had an unusual situation happen to me today which challenges that thought.   

I was on the 15 hole at my home course, a short 256 par 4 with bunkers protecting the green both left and in front.   I hit my drive into the left green side bunker.   My first attempt at a sand save didn't go as planned and I hit the ball about 3 feet, still in the bunker.   I hit the third shot, still in the bunker onto the green and made the putt for par.    

Since I didn't get out of the bunker on the first attempt, is this situation not a sand save or because I pared the hole, is it a sand save?

 

[Club Rat]

2 minutes ago, dennyjones said:

Since I didn't get out of the bunker on the first attempt, is this situation not a sand save

I believe a save would be for Par or better.

If you would hole out from a greenside bunker for Birdie, it would still be a sand save.

If you would have holed out yesterday for "Eagle" it would be a sand save.

[Lihu]

Up and down from sand 😊

[Golfingdad]

I googled it and it appears that your situation would not qualify for a sand save.

https://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2014/03/25/what-they-use-sand-save-percentage.html

(Note: Sand save percentage is calculated by the number of times a player is able to get up-and-down from a greenside bunker, regardless of score.)

[DeadMan]

Yeah, that's how GameGolf does it, too. I've had a couple of pars on par 5s where I was in greenside sand in 2. Doesn't count as a sand save.

[dennyjones]

On 7/13/2018 at 3:41 PM, DeadMan said:

Yeah, that's how GameGolf does it, too. I've had a couple of pars on par 5s where I was in greenside sand in 2. Doesn't count as a sand save.

This happened to me yesterday.   Your post answered my question about a slightly different situation than my OP.    I was in the greenside bunker in 2, on in regulation and two putted for par.  

[David in FL]

Yep.  Up and down.

Admittedly, it tends to lose a bit of the glamour when it’s to save an 8....  

[Vinny Cap]

I like "Sandie" better than sand save.  Sounds better.

Out of the bunker in 1 shot and drain the putt! Boom!

[rehmwa]

On 7/13/2018 at 2:15 PM, Golfingdad said:

I googled it and it appears that your situation would not qualify for a sand save.

https://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2014/03/25/what-they-use-sand-save-percentage.html

(Note: Sand save percentage is calculated by the number of times a player is able to get up-and-down from a greenside bunker, regardless of score.)

so the typical understanding is easy - if I'm in the sand (specifically greenside) - I'm in the hole in 1 (sink the sand shot) or 2 (sand and a putt) shots - that's the easy one.  So it comes down to what "up and down" means now.  so it didn't really clarify.  Is there an official meaning, or just an 'understanding' we use

• "up" I'd think that would that be specifically a successful sand shot that gets me out of the bunker (at a minimum) - does it have to end up on the green
• "down" any shot after up that sinks the ball - or does it have to be a putt

so that leaves a couple other options than just the 'usual'

1. what if I get out of the sand but then chip in from the fringe
2. what if I get out of the sand and into another bunker and then hole out from there
3. why not also a fairway bunker - but still down in 2

I'd always previously used it as any time I'm in the sand and save par - so I was way off there.....ie, I 'saved' par from the sand hazard

Edited August 24, 2018 by rehmwa