Nemesis Hole

**allin** · August 14, 2006

I have one hole at my home course, a medium length (400) par 4 that slopes up sharply the last 50 yards to an elevated green that I just can't par. If I hit my 4 wood off the tee I am forced to hit a 7wd into the green. It lands in the bank and it just kills it. Because it bakes out they water the heck out of it and I have to use my sand wedge opened up to keep enough bounce, up hill to get up and down. If I hit driver I can get a 4iron, a hybrid that I can't seem to fade) on the green but it won't stop. If I hit a five iron I have to hit it perfectly to get it there. I think I have only parred it twice, a perfectly struck 5 iron with a two put and out of the bunker to tap in after a hooked 4 iron.

**Rafcin** · August 14, 2006

I do have it, but it's not a mental thing (I hope) - this hole is just plain unfair and killed several good rounds for me. it's par 5 with 1/2 blind tee shot, blind lay-up and blind approach. All 3 of them have area of about 20 yds only, where the ball is safe, anything long(except for t-shot), short, left or right is a 99% chance of penalty with almost zero chance of recovery.

**Rafcin** · August 14, 2006

one more comment - what's the difference between the "van de valde" option and the "evil spirit" one ?

**Maverick** · August 14, 2006

For me:

It's a par 3 (210 yds) that plays downhill which makes it about 190 to the center with a big old lake in the front. The right side is all OB which isn't the problem. The problem is there this netting protection that crouches into the flight path of my ball. I play the shot left of the green and hope for a up and down..bogey at worst. The title of this topic is very ironic..that's what I call it to my buds too..my nemesis

**allin** · August 14, 2006

one more comment - what's the difference between the "van de valde" option and the "evil spirit" one ?

Vandevelde refers to inner demons. Evil spirits are just bad golf luck I quess.

**Konrad** · August 15, 2006

We have a sharp dogleg left hole at our course. Number 8. I hit the tee shot pretty well almost all the time. It's the damn second shot. I can never pull the right club. Always 10 yards short or past.

**JSF35** · August 15, 2006

Number 4 at my home course is my nemisis. It's a Par 4 430 yards. The fairway slopes up to a 50 foot deep gulley about 60 yards from the hole. On the top on that gulley is an elevated green with bunkers covering 75% of the hole. It's also the windiest hole on the course (always a headwind).

On any given day, I'll hit Driver of the tee. The wind will catch and the ball will carry about 220 (instead of my normal 270). Then I'll go 3-wood straight to the pin. It either goes short and rolls into the gulley or it goes long into a bunker. I've only made par once.

**georgep** · August 15, 2006

There's a 420-ish par four on the back at my league course (#13 of course) that comes out of a chute of trees to what is really an ample landing zone. Right past the landing zone the hole narrows and drops down a hill. So the shot is either to hit a dead straight ball (though that shot feels pinched on both sides), a fade that starts at the woods on the left and curves back to the fairway, or a draw that flirts with the trees on the right before following the fairway. Under or over-cook anything and you're in dark woods if not OB.

I can hit anything from 5-iron to driver and be OK, but I can also be deep in poison ivy if I hit the wrong shape. Then, the green has woods right behind and to the left. It's a solid little hole, though I think it may have some of those evil spirits lurking about, because it seems to get the best of everyone. It's very easy to run up a "double-par" real quick.

***iacas*** · August 15, 2006

My "nemesis hole" changes from month to month. The consistently hardest hole at my course is the 200-yard par-3 seventh, but for a month this year I couldn't play the par-5 13th for squat. It requires a draw from the tee and I simply couldn't hit it - I'd bail way right with huge cuts (left is OB, so if you overcook it or pull it... well let's just say there's good reason to bail right...).

It's a hole where you have an easy par or birdie if you can find the fairway... and an easy par if you miss way right and have any kind of shot to lay up for your second, but if you want the eagle chance, you really need to hit a good hard draw.

**ragontona** · August 15, 2006

Yes, and unfortunately it comes a couple holes after my favorite hole (in another thread).

Description, per the Augustine Golf Club website:

PAR 5 - The longest hole on the golf course is a double dogleg, a true "three shot" par five. The golfer must establish a strategy that will position their ball approximately 100-125 yards from the green for the third shot. The small green is protected by a bunker right, and a grass hollow left.

The hole sets up perfectly for a small draw, but you've got an environmental area that'll kill you if you draw it too far. Going for it is possible from the left side of the fairway, otherwise you have to lay up. Except the ideal lay up spot is set up so that there are fairway bunkers both short and long. The green is no picnic once you eventually get there either.

I've taken "Other" on this whole the past three times I've played this year. Ugh.

**cdriver** · August 15, 2006

#3 is a 400+ par 4 with OB tight down the left. The tee shot has to be threaded through tall trees lining both side of the fairway for the 1st 200 yds. It opens up to sparse trees on the right and a huge bunker on the right. If I hit a good tee shot, the green has bunkers both sides with a small entrance. The green itself is sloped pretty severely front to back.

If you hit a decent tee shot, you could still end up with a double by leaving the approach in the wrong place.

**thehillgolfer** · August 16, 2006

my nemisis hole is #4 at my home course, its a 260 yard par 4, a slight dogleg left and downhill. i can get there with anything from a 4 iron to a 3 wood. its the easiest hole on the whole course. i always hit a bad tee shot and even if i hit a good one, there is a huge bank in front of the green, that u can run the ball down (its what the old men do), i usually try to land the ball on the green, but if u go over its straight down another 10 feet across the cart path and into pine trees, which is eventually where i end up and get a 5 or a 6, its awful...the green btw is probably not even 100 square yards, its tiny.

**JetFan1983** · March 12, 2011

I finally broke under the pressure of waiting 10 minutes to hit every shot today and went Vandevelde on my nemesis hole, the par-5 fourteenth at my home course. It's a pretty obnoxious hole with OB right and left, but with a generous fairway. There isn't much rough between the fairway and OB (water left, a cow pasture right).

This hole is getting to be pretty frustrating, as I always seem to get derailed at this point in the round. Something for me to ponder I guess between now and my next round there.

It's 570 yards, uphill from the men's tees. I need to save some focus for this hole next time.

**phillyk** · March 12, 2011

My nemesis hole of all time also happens to be my favorite hole of all time (very odd I know). It's a par 5 520 yards. Water lining both sides of the fairway all the way to the hole from the tee. The fairway also leans toward the water, so you have to hit it straight. You also, on the tee, have to carry the water, 220 yards to the beginning of the fairway from the tips. As way their is water going across the front of the green! Walking with a par is a feat in of itself. Funny thing is, this hole is where I had my only albatross, so I can't hate it too much.

**golf4fun12** · March 13, 2011

a par 4, 425 yards, straight as an arrow. but always against the wind. I am about an average of 150 away on my approach shot. the green though is a lot smaller compared to the others on the course. for some reason, golf god's I guess, I can never GIR for this hole. I have had one birdie and it was a chip in. played the hole a dozen times. but never hit the dang green.

**ohiolefty** · March 13, 2011

I have a hole where, if you hook it, which is my miss...it's out of bounds. There's a fairway, about 5 yards of rough, and OB. Plus, there's a creek (downhill) at 250 so you have to lay up short of that.

Many times I either:

Hook it OB
Lay up short of the creek and end up with a really downhill lie and a long-ish 2nd shot
Hit the drive too far, even with a cut 3W or a full hybrid, and put it in the creek.
Get so worried about hooking it I hit a massive block the other way and end up behind a tree or in some sh*tty lie...thus making a 415 yard par 4 into a 3 shot hole.

**Dad-2-3** · March 13, 2011

My nemesis hole is a 555 yard par 5. At about 270 off the tee the fairway rolls down into a 40 foot deep swale. Right at the drop off there are tow HUGE trees 40 yards apart. Basically you've got to hit it short of the swale, which isn't a problem for me, but not too short because you want your next shot to be hit between the trunks of the two trees. If you lay back too far your shot will be at branch height of the trees. It seems like there is only a 20 yard gap at that height to get your ball through. The optimum landing area is only 20-30 yards wide. If you hit your first two shots well then you will almost be guaranteed a par. In the summer I have hit a few drives too far and have ended up in the swale either in the bottom or on a severe downhill lie. Either one is death for me.

I've played this hole 9 times so far this year and have doubled it 5 times, bogied it twice and parred it twice.

**Lofty Lefty** · March 13, 2011

I could list a dozen holes here! Most of them feature an OB, or a VERY tricky green to putt on. For a while there, I couldn't for the life of me hit a the huge green of a very simple 150m par 3.... drove me nuts!

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