Breaking Bad

[jamo]

Just thought of this... Going back to the episodes where Walt and Jesse teamed up with the Nazis originally, to start the Vamanos Pest operation, they were originally thieves. Then they all made the deal not to steal anything else from there on out. They were to take orders from Walt and Jesse and to only take "their share." Now the went ahead and said f-ck you to all of that and in the end: were thieves. Nothing ground breaking just something I remembered. Also lold last night when my fiance and  I were watching older episodes. It was Season 2 where Walt first meets Gus and Gus tells Walt, you can never trust an addict. Welp.. Yeah. He got ya there Walter lol

Were the other Vamanos Pest guys Nazis? I'm pretty sure they were just normal fumigators/thieves and Walt was only introduced to the Nazis (through Todd, who is the least swastika-tattooed of all of the Nazis) as a way to take out Mike's guys. I don't remember any references to Nazism before that first meeting in the motel when they were planning to take out Mike's guys.

[Heisenberg]

Were the other Vamanos Pest guys Nazis? I'm pretty sure they were just normal fumigators/thieves and Walt was only introduced to the Nazis (through Todd, who is the least swastika-tattooed of all of the Nazis) as a way to take out Mike's guys. I don't remember any references to Nazism before that first meeting in the motel when they were planning to take out Mike's guys.

f ck.. you're right. lol.

I thought hastily because Todd was involved.

It was some other group of goons. Walt gets involved with the Nazis when he needs help killing Mike's guys

[Beachcomber]

Were the other Vamanos Pest guys Nazis? I'm pretty sure they were just normal fumigators/thieves and Walt was only introduced to the Nazis (through Todd, who is the least swastika-tattooed of all of the Nazis) as a way to take out Mike's guys. I don't remember any references to Nazism before that first meeting in the motel when they were planning to take out Mike's guys.

The Pest control guys were just criminals... And Todd was part of that group.  The Aryan Brotherhood dudes didn't get introduced until Todd reached out to his Uncle Jack for assistance on taking out Mike's associates getting hush money - who were in prison.

The Aryan Brotherhood is big in prison and organized gangs/crime... So they aren't Nazis... They're likely Aryan Brotherhood... But get called Nazis because of the symbolism found in their tattoos.

[dsc123]

Todd's character development has been great.

[jamo]

The Aryan Brotherhood is big in prison and organized gangs/crime... So they aren't Nazis... They're likely Aryan Brotherhood... But get called Nazis because of the symbolism found in their tattoos.

Ugh. I always get my white supremacists mixed up. :-P

[Golfingdad]

So they aren't Nazis... They're likely Aryan Brotherhood... But get called Nazis because of the symbolism found in their tattoos.

Well, that and the fact that they are white supremacists.

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Todd was eager to get in good with Walt from the git-go.  Right after Mike gives them the speech about never speaking unless they are spoken to, Todd still gets up the courage to go up to Walt and inform him that the house (the first house they are going to cook in) has a nanny-cam and that he disabled it.  And, shortly thereafter is when he tells Walt about his uncle and his connections.

[Heisenberg]

for anyone that's interested. had this song in my head so looked it up. Its the song from the season finale

just a heads up, the official music video for this is effing weird as hell. lol. nothing to do with BB

[Golfingdad]

Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

- Bob Odenkirk based the character of Saul partially on his real-life agent Ari Emanuel.  Incidentally, Emanuel was also the inspiration for the character of Ari Gold on Entourage.

- The guy who plays Bogdan, Walt's boss at the car wash way back when, was not an actor prior to this role, but was, in fact, a chemistry genius with a phd.

- And I think everybody at this point knows that Jesse was supposed to die in season 1.  I would be curious to know how far out Vince Gilligan had planned the show beyond that, because it would be interesting to see the direction he envisioned without Jesse.

- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

[JetFan1983]

Loving all this speculation and celebration of such a great show in its final week.

Anyone here watch Conan last night? The entire episode was dedicated to Breaking Bad. The main cast were the guests, all the sketches were Breaking Bad related, and even Skinny Pete played in the band. Musical guest were those Mexican guys who sang that Heisenberg song.

I enjoyed it!

[Slice of Life]

Loving all this speculation and celebration of such a great show in its final week.

Anyone here watch Conan last night? The entire episode was dedicated to Breaking Bad. The main cast were the guests, all the sketches were Breaking Bad related, and even Skinny Pete played in the band. Musical guest were those Mexican guys who sang that Heisenberg song.

I enjoyed it!

I have it DVR'd.

[Beachcomber]

for anyone that's interested. had this song in my head so looked it up. Its the song from the season finale

just a heads up, the official music video for this is effing weird as hell. lol. nothing to do with BB

That's a really great song - as it ties into Breaking Bad.  Very solid choice of music... But that video. LOL

W...T.......

[Heisenberg]

Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

good choice there Vince lol.

[jamo]

Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ... - Bob Odenkirk based the character of Saul partially on his real-life agent Ari Emanuel.  Incidentally, Emanuel was also the inspiration for the character of Ari Gold on Entourage.

Fun fact: Bob Odenkirk also created the "Matt Foley, Motivation Speaker" character played by Chris Farley when he was a writer on SNL. [quote name="Golfingdad" url="/t/10116/breaking-bad/360_30#post_901500"]- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well. [/quote] [quote name="Heisenberg" url="/t/10116/breaking-bad/390_30#post_901518"] lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell? good choice there Vince lol. [/quote] From what I read, The Cousins were originally supposed to be a bigger part of the season, with Tio basically holding the power there. But apparently they never really came up with a better ending than the faceoff with Hank, so they went with that.

[Slice of Life]

lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

good choice there Vince lol.

Tio, not Hector.

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

[Heisenberg]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamo

From what I read, The Cousins were originally supposed to be a bigger part of the season, with Tio basically holding the power there. But apparently they never really came up with a better ending than the faceoff with Hank, so they went with that.

Eh. Ok I can see that. Kind of being the "orchestrator" of it having the cousins do the bidding.

I liked the cousins kind of. but I felt like there was a little too much of a supernatural vibe to them. like they were ghosts or possessed or something

Tio, not Hector.

Hector "Tio" Salamanca

[JetFan1983]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

good choice there Vince lol.

Tio, not Hector.

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

Tio means uncle.

[Jeremie Boop]

Tio, not Hector.

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

You are thinking of Tuco right? the Younger guy?

[Beachcomber]

Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

- Bob Odenkirk based the character of Saul partially on his real-life agent Ari Emanuel.  Incidentally, Emanuel was also the inspiration for the character of Ari Gold on Entourage.

- The guy who plays Bogdan, Walt's boss at the car wash way back when, was not an actor prior to this role, but was, in fact, a chemistry genius with a phd.

- And I think everybody at this point knows that Jesse was supposed to die in season 1.  I would be curious to know how far out Vince Gilligan had planned the show beyond that, because it would be interesting to see the direction he envisioned without Jesse.

- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

I'm not sure about the Saul comment... Saul's character was written by Peter Guold.  So while Bob Odenkirk is the actor of Saul... It really wasn't his call on who Saul was based on.  Did Peter base Saul on Ari Emanuel??  I guess I'm confused.

Bogdan was classic... That would be hilarious with those eyebrows... Would be great to see a flash forward of him getting his car wash back during the credits. LOL

Yeah Jesse dying would've been a bad move back in season 1.  The understatement of the century for anyone who likes Breaking Bad.  Great call by the writers to extend his life cycle in the show.  And brilliant move with Gus.  I was hoping that the Gus battle would've lasted longer.  For some reason I thought the Cartel (think back to the turtle scene) was more horrifying than the Aryan Brotherhood.  Something about Uncle Jack just seems cheesy.  But then we wouldn't had the freaking breakthrough that we've had with Todd's character.  Wow.  That dude is scary.

Who's more evil?  Gus or Todd?  That's one helluva question...