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On 8/8/2019 at 10:21 AM, David in FL said:

ESC only affects the score that you post for handicap purposes.  It has no impact whatsoever on the actual score for your round.

 As an example, in a stroke play event, if I were to actually take a 7 on a par-4, that’s my score on the scorecard.  But my ESC maximum for handicap reporting is no more than double bogey on any given hole, so a 6 is what gets counted for that hole afterwards instead of the 7.  It has no impact at all on the competition.

It’s actually designed to help eliminate cheating by those who might otherwise inflate their score on holes they had already lost to artificially inflate their handicap...

Gah!  I have been thinking about this all week.  It is the word "inflate" that I am hung up on.  Are you saying that to post a higher handicap than what is "truly representative of your ability" aka score augmented by ESC makes it higher than is accurate?  Am I to understand that ESC is expected to prevent people from posting a handicap that is too high?  Is that for competition purposes, like sandbagging?

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37 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

Gah!  I have been thinking about this all week.  It is the word "inflate" that I am hung up on.  Are you saying that to post a higher handicap than what is "truly representative of your ability" aka score augmented by ESC makes it higher than is accurate?  Am I to understand that ESC is expected to prevent people from posting a handicap that is too high?  Is that for competition purposes, like sandbagging?

Exactly

If someone is posting scores higher than their ESC maximum, then their handicap index will be incrementally higher than it should be.  In a competition, they will receive more strokes than they should be entitled to.  

Even if unintentional, they’re sandbagging.

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Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
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Club championship. Scored every bleeding, awful, stinking, poorly-conceived, dirt-eating, wayward stroke.

I'd list more adjectives but I'm very tired and not thinking quite right.

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3 hours ago, mcanadiens said:

Club championship. Scored every bleeding, awful, stinking, poorly-conceived, dirt-eating, wayward stroke.

I'd list more adjectives but I'm very tired and not thinking quite right.

Indeed, my club championship was this weekend.  I managed nothing worse than a 6 today (the last day), but the first two rounds saw a pair of sevens and an eight. :-( 

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14 hours ago, David in FL said:

Exactly

If someone is posting scores higher than their ESC maximum, then their handicap index will be incrementally higher than it should be.  In a competition, they will receive more strokes than they should be entitled to.  

Even if unintentional, they’re sandbagging.

Yeah, okay.  That makes sense.

I am not participating in anything like that.  And I am certainly not intentionally taking extra strokes.  I think for me it makes better sense to simply log each hole according to the actual strokes.

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2 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

 I think for me it makes better sense to simply log each hole according to the actual strokes.

 Your handicap index is simply a measure of relative performance/potential.  But if everyone doesn’t use it within the confines of the system, then the number means nothing.  

It’s no different than those who post scores while taking mulligans and rolling the ball.  If that’s how they want to play the game, it doesn’t bother me at all, but they might as well not even maintain a handicap, because it’s not an accurate reflection of their ability relative to anyone else’s...

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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I hear you.  I gotcha.  If I were to use ESC in my world, I would be the person not using the correct system.  My mates would be well within reason to accuse me of fluffing my number, and they would be correct.  If it bothers you, just subtract a few to account for the blow up holes or simply ignore the number I have.  But you can't ignore my cool Don Knotts pic.  The man was a Cassanova.

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12 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

But you can't ignore my cool Don Knotts pic.  The man was a Cassanova.

Well, that’s a different kind of scoring. ;-)

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2019 Rule: “Maximum Score” will be a new, additional form of stroke play:

 A player’s score for each hole is capped at a maximum set by the Committee, which may be fixed (such as 6, 8, 10, etc.), related to par (such as two times par or triple bogey), or related to the player’s handicap (such as net double bogey).

 A player who does not complete a hole (often referred to informally as “picking up”) will not be disqualified, but simply gets the maximum score for the hole.

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