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Broken Shafts at the Hosel - Taylormade M4

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Hey Guys,

New to the forum, and relatively new at golf.  I've read through a few older posts regarding this issue and was hoping to get more insight.  Any help would be much appreciated!

I've been playing for almost a year now, and can without a doubt admit that I have the bug!  I usually play 18 at least once a week, and sometimes will sneak in 9.  About 4 months ago I finally ponied up and purchased a Taylormade M4 D Type Driver.  I was fit by one of the guys at Golf Galaxy who seemed relatively knowledgeable.  He ended up suggesting that I go with a stiff shaft as my swing speed was clocking at about 110.  I had done some research prior to going into the store, and read that swing speed was on the cusp of being "stiff worthy", but I took the fitters advice because I was certain he knew more than me and I was excited to be buying my first driver.

The driver seemed to work well for awhile.  I hit some decent shots, and hit some not so decent shots, but everything seemed to be "normal" for my newness to the game.  A couple weeks ago is when the problems started happening. Tee'd off on the 14th and my ball went 25 yards to the left, and the head on my driver ended up about 10 yards behind it.  It had snapped right above the adapter piece at the bottom of the shaft (picture attached).  I was shocked but thought it was a fluke and got a replacement from Golf Galaxy the next week. 

This past weekend marks the 4th time this has happened.  I've had it fixed by the guys at Golf Galaxy and once by the guy at my local Dick's Sporting Goods.  Thought I may have been hitting the ground prior to hitting the ball, but the guys I play with have confirmed I'm hitting ball first.  Each time it's broken it's felt the best contact I've had all day and feels like I'm hitting the face square...then I see my head flying off down the fairway.

Just a few stats...it was the fujikura atmos red shaft first, which I believe is 55g, and the next 3 have been the fujikura atmos orange which I think is also 55g.   Just a little about me, I'm 26, about 6'2 230, and in fairly decent shape.

Is my shaft too stiff?  Not stiff enough?  I've played baseball my whole life so my swing does have a little torque to it, but I know there are tons of guys that come from a baseball background and don't have this problem.  Any ideas?   Thanks in advance!

 

-Trey

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6 hours ago, trizzgetsbizz said:

Hey Guys,

New to the forum, and relatively new at golf.  I've read through a few older posts regarding this issue and was hoping to get more insight.  Any help would be much appreciated!

I've been playing for almost a year now, and can without a doubt admit that I have the bug!  I usually play 18 at least once a week, and sometimes will sneak in 9.  About 4 months ago I finally ponied up and purchased a Taylormade M4 D Type Driver.  I was fit by one of the guys at Golf Galaxy who seemed relatively knowledgeable.  He ended up suggesting that I go with a stiff shaft as my swing speed was clocking at about 110.  I had done some research prior to going into the store, and read that swing speed was on the cusp of being "stiff worthy", but I took the fitters advice because I was certain he knew more than me and I was excited to be buying my first driver.

The driver seemed to work well for awhile.  I hit some decent shots, and hit some not so decent shots, but everything seemed to be "normal" for my newness to the game.  A couple weeks ago is when the problems started happening. Tee'd off on the 14th and my ball went 25 yards to the left, and the head on my driver ended up about 10 yards behind it.  It had snapped right above the adapter piece at the bottom of the shaft (picture attached).  I was shocked but thought it was a fluke and got a replacement from Golf Galaxy the next week. 

This past weekend marks the 4th time this has happened.  I've had it fixed by the guys at Golf Galaxy and once by the guy at my local Dick's Sporting Goods.  Thought I may have been hitting the ground prior to hitting the ball, but the guys I play with have confirmed I'm hitting ball first.  Each time it's broken it's felt the best contact I've had all day and feels like I'm hitting the face square...then I see my head flying off down the fairway.

Just a few stats...it was the fujikura atmos red shaft first, which I believe is 55g, and the next 3 have been the fujikura atmos orange which I think is also 55g.   Just a little about me, I'm 26, about 6'2 230, and in fairly decent shape.

Is my shaft too stiff?  Not stiff enough?  I've played baseball my whole life so my swing does have a little torque to it, but I know there are tons of guys that come from a baseball background and don't have this problem.  Any ideas?   Thanks in advance!

 

-Trey

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Seems like a very light shaft for your swing speed. I play a 63g regular and my SS is around 93. I would try out some heavier shafts at Golf Galaxy and see what works.

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I would demand a new driver, this should not happen. I don't have a 110 swing speed but look at the pro's and they aren't breaking shafts. Regular or stiff make no difference. All of us hit the ground once in a while and shafts should not break, period. I don't know what is wrong with the club but this should not be happening. Good luck

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I'm thinking that since the head is common element that there might be a bit of a sharp edge inside the hosel, nicking the shafts, and causing them to snap.  I think I would be insisting on a new head.  This shouldn't happen, or at least not with regularity.

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I had this problem when I first started, broke nearly every graphite shafted club in my bag...3 in one range session once, nearly back to back.

The common factor for me was swinging too hard and mishits on the hosel. Even if it was previously hit on the hosel and then I hit a well placed ball on the club face it was still breaking. As i got better and moved from hosel mishits to toe, upper face mishits the problem went away

However, i just noticed a crack in the metal at the base of the clubface in my driver the other day...still hits fine for now but I'll probably get a new one soon.

 

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18 hours ago, trizzgetsbizz said:

Each time it's broken it's felt the best contact I've had all day and feels like I'm hitting the face square...then I see my head flying off down the fairway.

It's not the swing that "breaks the camel's back" that's the problem, but all the minor damage done to it on previous misses. I'm guessing you tend to miss pretty far towards the hosel with a faster swing speed - puts extra stress on the shaft. I've broken three driver shafts in the past and they've all been when my primary miss was towards the heel.

9 hours ago, cooke119 said:

Regular or stiff make no difference.

Actually, it does. Stiffer shafts have more layers of graphite.

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12 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Seems like a very light shaft for your swing speed. I play a 63g regular and my SS is around 93. I would try out some heavier shafts at Golf Galaxy and see what works.

 

12 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Seems like a very light shaft for your swing speed. I play a 63g regular and my SS is around 93. I would try out some heavier shafts at Golf Galaxy and see what works.

That’s a great idea.  Thanks for the suggestion. I didn’t think about that initially but now that you say that it does seem kinda light. I was fitted for stiff irons and the guy that helped me suggested I swing something a little heavier. Maybe I should follow suit in my driver! 

10 hours ago, cooke119 said:

I would demand a new driver, this should not happen. I don't have a 110 swing speed but look at the pro's and they aren't breaking shafts. Regular or stiff make no difference. All of us hit the ground once in a while and shafts should not break, period. I don't know what is wrong with the club but this should not be happening. Good luck

Thanks, Cooke! Good point. I think I may give Taylormade a call and see if they will do something for me. 

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9 hours ago, jlbos83 said:

I'm thinking that since the head is common element that there might be a bit of a sharp edge inside the hosel, nicking the shafts, and causing them to snap.  I think I would be insisting on a new head.  This shouldn't happen, or at least not with regularity.

I'm starting to think so too.  Breaking it once that way is one thing.  But 4 times...seems odd.  Especially since it was replaced at 2 different locations.

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6 hours ago, bankquant said:

I had this problem when I first started, broke nearly every graphite shafted club in my bag...3 in one range session once, nearly back to back.

The common factor for me was swinging too hard and mishits on the hosel. Even if it was previously hit on the hosel and then I hit a well placed ball on the club face it was still breaking. As i got better and moved from hosel mishits to toe, upper face mishits the problem went away

However, i just noticed a crack in the metal at the base of the clubface in my driver the other day...still hits fine for now but I'll probably get a new one soon.

 

 

4 hours ago, billchao said:

It's not the swing that "breaks the camel's back" that's the problem, but all the minor damage done to it on previous misses. I'm guessing you tend to miss pretty far towards the hosel with a faster swing speed - puts extra stress on the shaft. I've broken three driver shafts in the past and they've all been when my primary miss was towards the heel.

Actually, it does. Stiffer shafts have more layers of graphite.

Hitting the heel a time too many is definitely possible.  I'm sure I've hit some there, but I couldn't say how many.  Looking at the face, it doesn't look too bad, but I could be wrong.  I'll upload a picture tomorrow and see what you guys think.  Should I try moving further away from the ball at address?  I'm guessing that if that is what's happening, the clubhead is coming through the zone, and my arms are outstretched to the point where the heel is squaring up with the ball rather than the sweet spot?  I've just started taking some lessons as well, so if it is a swing flaw, hopefully I can get rid of it sooner than later! 🙂

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Sorry for the delay.  Here's a picture of my club face.  I talked to rep at Taylormade today and he suggested that I take it back to Golf Galaxy or Dick's and request that they give me the Atmos black shaft.  Apparently the tip on that shaft is more durable?  He asked me what my swing speed was and I told him 110 and he straight up told me that the Atmos red isn't made for that... Guess I'll give that a try!

 

 

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On 8/15/2019 at 6:30 PM, billchao said:

It's not the swing that "breaks the camel's back" that's the problem, but all the minor damage done to it on previous misses. I'm guessing you tend to miss pretty far towards the hosel with a faster swing speed - puts extra stress on the shaft. I've broken three driver shafts in the past and they've all been when my primary miss was towards the heel.

Actually, it does. Stiffer shafts have more layers of graphite.

 

On 8/15/2019 at 5:04 PM, bankquant said:

I had this problem when I first started, broke nearly every graphite shafted club in my bag...3 in one range session once, nearly back to back.

The common factor for me was swinging too hard and mishits on the hosel. Even if it was previously hit on the hosel and then I hit a well placed ball on the club face it was still breaking. As i got better and moved from hosel mishits to toe, upper face mishits the problem went away

However, i just noticed a crack in the metal at the base of the clubface in my driver the other day...still hits fine for now but I'll probably get a new one soon.

 

 

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Meant to quote previous responses.

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