Game Golf Pro

[iacas]

1 hour ago, lastings said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, as I don't own either..   But it kind of seemed like Arccos and Game Golf were different garments cut from the same cloth, but as competition heats up between the two, they appear to be becoming more and more alike?  yes/no? 

Yep.

[billchao]

The only thing I like about this is the fact that Live units will get discounted and I'll upgrade/replace my original unit and its aging battery.

What I have always wanted from Game Golf was more from the data and software side. Looks like they will do more with that which is good, because I find their current recommendations for improvement lacking.

[iacas]

5 minutes ago, billchao said:

The only thing I like about this is the fact that Live units will get discounted and I'll upgrade/replace my original unit and its aging battery.

They already are.

6 minutes ago, billchao said:

What I have always wanted from Game Golf was more from the data and software side. Looks like they will do more with that which is good, because I find their current recommendations for improvement lacking.

You, me, and everyone else. Ever. Always.

[kpaulhus]

Didnt really wow me. I like tagging. Hope they incorporate the shot zone information into all levels of GG users. They say 2 millions rounds of data, or whatever, and Im a big contributor to that data. 

[lastings]

question for game golf users?   and/or arccos users..   

does it give you more individual stats than are shown when you click on someone profile..    i.e. Strokes gained putting, fairway% with driver, GIR% from different distances/lies, etc.   

I know that the data is there for you to figure that yourself, but it would be cool to have that info given to you..  

 

 

[iacas]

1 minute ago, lastings said:

question for game golf users?   and/or arccos users..   

does it give you more individual stats than are shown when you click on someone profile..    i.e. Strokes gained putting, fairway% with driver, GIR% from different distances/lies, etc.   

I know that the data is there for you to figure that yourself, but it would be cool to have that info given to you..  

You can create a free GAME GOLF account and use the phone app for free.

[lastings]

8 minutes ago, iacas said:

You can create a free GAME GOLF account and use the phone app for free.

Ahh, now I see.   not only has strokes gained, but you can also set it to strokes gained vs. a particular handicap instead of against scratch.   pretty cool.

[lastings]

The more I dig around, the more I like it.   I think I'll try out the Pro this spring and report back.  

one question:  when you're on the green, how does it know where the hole is? 

 

[klineka]

8 minutes ago, lastings said:

The more I dig around, the more I like it.   I think I'll try out the Pro this spring and report back.  

one question:  when you're on the green, how does it know where the hole is? 

 

From GameGolf 

"We use a custom algorithm for approximating where the pin location might be, based on your putt locations. If you 1-putt, the pin will default to the center of the green. If you have two or more putts, the pin will be placed within 3 feet of your last putt. If you desire more precise putt distances, you will need to edit the pin locations manually.

For GAME GOLF Classic Users you can edit the pin location in the edit mode on the website.

For GAME GOLF LIVE Users you can edit the pin location in-round on the app as well as in the edit mode on the website."

[lastings]

20 minutes ago, klineka said:

From GameGolf 

"We use a custom algorithm for approximating where the pin location might be, based on your putt locations. If you 1-putt, the pin will default to the center of the green. If you have two or more putts, the pin will be placed within 3 feet of your last putt. If you desire more precise putt distances, you will need to edit the pin locations manually.

For GAME GOLF Classic Users you can edit the pin location in the edit mode on the website.

For GAME GOLF LIVE Users you can edit the pin location in-round on the app as well as in the edit mode on the website."

interesting..   so basically, anytime you make a putt of any distance at all, there is some manual entry involved?   Is there no way tag where the hole is as you pick up your ball, or something like that?   

[iacas]

1 hour ago, lastings said:

interesting..   so basically, anytime you make a putt of any distance at all, there is some manual entry involved?   Is there no way tag where the hole is as you pick up your ball, or something like that?   

No. Nor should there be IMO. Just edit your data at the end to ensure accuracy. Takes five minutes and is enjoyable.

[lastings]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

No. Nor should there be IMO. Just edit your data at the end to ensure accuracy. Takes five minutes and is enjoyable.

You guys that use it would know better than I, obviously.  So I trust your judgement.  I gather that it’s relatively easy to adjust your putts and make them accurate? 

[billchao]

2 hours ago, lastings said:

Is there no way tag where the hole is as you pick up your ball, or something like that?   

If you do this, you'd have to manually edit out all those extra putts from the extra tagging anyway.

The other thing is GPS just isn't that accurate. Sometimes cloud cover can throw it off slightly, or overhanging trees, etc. It's only accurate to a yard or two to begin with, and being 3-6' off can screw up your putting data.

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Just edit your data at the end to ensure accuracy. Takes five minutes and is enjoyable.

This. I check all my shot locations for accuracy. Sometimes they have stuff mapped wrong and put your shot in weird spots. Sometimes running up and down hills registers shots that I have to delete, and I'm already adding penalties anyway 

I just like the editing. Helps me look the round over and evaluate while it's fresh in my mind.

4 minutes ago, lastings said:

I gather that it’s relatively easy to adjust your putts and make them accurate? 

Yea. As long as you remember the hole locations and where you hit putts from, you just move stuff around.

I like to make distance notes on my scorecard - though how accurate they are is questionable as I've never measured to compare so I don't know for certain how well I judge distance on the green. I use them as a guideline mostly. If I mark down my first putt is 12' and my second is a tap-in and GG says my first putt is from 25' and I holed a 4' putt, I'm going with my numbers. But if GG has my first putt at 15' or something, I leave it.

[iacas]

41 minutes ago, lastings said:

You guys that use it would know better than I, obviously.  So I trust your judgement.  I gather that it’s relatively easy to adjust your putts and make them accurate? 

Yes. FWIW, only the distance of your first putt (to the hole) and the number of putts really matters. It doesn't matter if your eight footer for birdie stops on the lip or if you hit it ten feet past the hole if you hole the next putt.

31 minutes ago, billchao said:

The other thing is GPS just isn't that accurate. Sometimes cloud cover can throw it off slightly, or overhanging trees, etc. It's only accurate to a yard or two to begin with, and being 3-6' off can screw up your putting data.

It's not even that accurate. It's closer to about 10', and is easily less accurate amongst or between lots of trees, as many putting greens are.

GAME GOLF also intelligently knows where a previous user set the hole, and will leave it there if someone else plays later in the day.

[hilmar2k]

13 hours ago, iacas said:

GAME GOLF also intelligently knows where a previous user set the hole, and will leave it there if someone else plays later in the day.

Does that work if two people in a group are both GG users? If one of them moves the hole, will it move it for the other one too? My golf partner and I just bought GG Live, and it would be great if only one of us had to relocate the pin.

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, hilmar2k said:

Does that work if two people in a group are both GG users? If one of them moves the hole, will it move it for the other one too? My golf partner and I just bought GG Live, and it would be great if only one of us had to relocate the pin.

I don't know how quickly it updates. Maybe?

[JxQx]

On 1/24/2018 at 9:45 AM, iacas said:

Pretty sure the main unit will house the GPS and thus, will have to be on your belt or something. But now you could put it in the back, or in a pocket, or whatever, as you won't have to tag.

I wasn’t sure what type of range the gps unit had at picking up the tags. I typically carry my bag, which is usually a few feet from where I’m hitting. For me, I don’t see any added benefit with the PRO unit vs live unit if I still have to carry it on me. 

[iacas]

29 minutes ago, JxQx said:

I wasn’t sure what type of range the gps unit had at picking up the tags. I typically carry my bag, which is usually a few feet from where I’m hitting. For me, I don’t see any added benefit with the PRO unit vs live unit if I still have to carry it on me. 

Right.

Plus, you're not going to be able to putt and get an accurate reading if the unit is in your bag, since presumably you don't put your bag on the putting green beside your ball.