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4 minutes ago, bones said:

I wasnt "telling anyone how to enjoy the game"

Well…

22 hours ago, bones said:

you will enjoy the game a lot more

But anyway…

I get what you're saying. But understand what Scott (@boogielicious) is saying, too. 🙂

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38 minutes ago, iacas said:

Well…

But anyway…

I get what you're saying. But understand what Scott (@boogielicious) is saying, too. 🙂

Laughable...youre the one that changed the title of the thread...

 

 


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5 minutes ago, bones said:

Laughable...youre the one that changed the title of the thread...

 

 

Your whole post belittles players who practice on the course saying we don’t enjoy what we do and yet you don’t play anymore.

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2 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Your whole post belittles players who practice on the course saying we don’t enjoy what we do and yet you don’t play anymore.

Havent you got that wrong...

The whole purpose of commencing this thread was to simply point out that when I played along time ago (Im 73) we all played one ball. No-one did anything else.

I was simply trying to courteously suggest that if anyone plays one ball

it might create a bit of variety by playing MORE than one ball.

Ive tried to be courteous and I get shitcanned.....

Im a new member...Im seriously considering not posting any more after

the pedantic welcome Ive received...

Even the title to the thread was changed...

How childish and authoritarian is that....

 

 

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14 minutes ago, bones said:

Laughable...youre the one that changed the title of the thread...

Relax. I think "The Two Mindsets of Golf" or whatever is a poor title. Your post doesn't really discuss a mindset at all, and my rounds are basically never becomes "frustrating because of a few holes."

But again, relax, man. You're reading something into posts that simply isn't there.

Just now, bones said:

The whole purpose of commencing this thread was to simply point out that when I played along time ago (Im 73) we all played one ball. No-one did anything else.

People have played multiple balls for decades. We've got topics on this dating back nearly 20 years.

Just now, bones said:

Ive tried to be courteous and I get shitcanned…

Again, you're reading entirely too much into things. R-E-L-A-X.

Just now, bones said:

Even the title to the thread was changed...

How childish and authoritarian is that....

Your topic title was bad. If you have a suggestion for a better one, I'm happy to change it again.

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7 minutes ago, bones said:

Havent you got that wrong...

The whole purpose of commencing this thread was to simply point out that when I played along time ago (Im 73) we all played one ball. No-one did anything else.

I was simply trying to courteously suggest that if anyone plays one ball

it might create a bit of variety by playing MORE than one ball.

Ive tried to be courteous and I get shitcanned.....

Im a new member...Im seriously considering not posting any more after

the pedantic welcome Ive received...

Even the title to the thread was changed...

How childish and authoritarian is that....

 

 

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Then please explain what you are saying more clearly. If I misinterpreted your post, I apologize. But we all have different reasons for playing and I enjoy practicing as much as competition. 

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

Relax. I think "The Two Mindsets of Golf" or whatever is a poor title. Your post doesn't really discuss a mindset at all, and my rounds are basically never becomes "frustrating because of a few holes.

Agreed. - I was confused by the title when I read the OP.

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13 minutes ago, bones said:

Havent you got that wrong...

The whole purpose of commencing this thread was to simply point out that when I played along time ago (Im 73) we all played one ball. No-one did anything else.

I was simply trying to courteously suggest that if anyone plays one ball

it might create a bit of variety by playing MORE than one ball.

Ive tried to be courteous and I get shitcanned.....

Im a new member...Im seriously considering not posting any more after

the pedantic welcome Ive received...

Even the title to the thread was changed...

How childish and authoritarian is that....

 

 

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It's a good forum but little leeway is given.  On occasion you'll get challenged or even warned by the moderators.  But it's a great place to discuss golf, though you have to defend your positions or accept that others have a better point-of-view.  Really good people on here.  Stick around, it'll get better.

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2 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

It's a good forum but little leeway is given.  On occasion you'll get challenged or even warned by the moderators.  But it's a great place to discuss golf, though you have to defend your positions or accept that others have a better point-of-view.  Really good people on here.  Stick around, it'll get better.

No thanx...Im done...

I have three sons...I taught them all to play golf...

They are all off single figures...

Ive got better things to do than argue with people...

Life is too short...


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1 minute ago, Double Mocha Man said:

though you have to defend your positions or accept that others have a better point-of-view.

This simply isn't true. Yes people are expected to defend their positions and back up claims with facts, but just because someone chooses not to back up their opinion doesn't automatically make the other person(s) point of view better. It's not always that black and white.

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1 minute ago, klineka said:

This simply isn't true. Yes people are expected to defend their positions and back up claims with facts, but just because someone chooses not to back up their opinion doesn't automatically make the other person(s) point of view better. It's not always that black and white.

Well, personally, I've accepted that others have a better point-of-view.  I've accepted that I was wrong... or misinformed.  On here, and in life in general.  


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4 minutes ago, bones said:

No thanx...Im done...

I have three sons...I taught them all to play golf...

They are all off single figures...

Ive got better things to do than argue with people...

Life is too short...

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Posted
2 minutes ago, iacas said:

go away goodbye GIF

Well theres a perfect illustration of your pedantic, authoritarian

"must have the last word" childish nature...

 

 


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1 minute ago, bones said:

Well theres a perfect illustration of your pedantic, authoritarian

"must have the last word" childish nature...

I thought you were leaving?

Also…

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On 1/21/2021 at 5:49 PM, bones said:

I dont play golf any more, but caddy regularly for my son.

When I played back in the day it was normal for everyone to just play one balll, hole out

and record our score.

My son doesnt do this. He will go out and play nine holes, but if there is no-one behind

him, he will drop down, say six balls just off the fairway and play all six down the fairway or into

the green. He repairs his divots courteously. Doesnt even putt out...

Watching him play, I was thinking I could not just play one ball if I was playing these days.

Maybe in a saturday afternoon comp, or monthly medals, sure...but a practice round...no way...

Think about it. One ball...one shot..one chance..

How often does a practice round become so frustrating because of a few holes

which ruined your score..

Try it..dont score..just practice..you will enjoy the game a lot more

Your post doesn't make much sense to me and also seems internally inconsistent. But, in any event, "playing golf" and "practice" are two different things even if you happen to be doing the practice on a golf course. You can practice on the golf course all you want (assuming conditions allow it) but it's not "golf" - no matter how much you might enjoy it.


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8 hours ago, bones said:

Havent you got that wrong...

The whole purpose of commencing this thread was to simply point out that when I played along time ago (Im 73) we all played one ball. No-one did anything else.

I was simply trying to courteously suggest that if anyone plays one ball

it might create a bit of variety by playing MORE than one ball.

Ive tried to be courteous and I get shitcanned.....

Im a new member...Im seriously considering not posting any more after

the pedantic welcome Ive received...

Even the title to the thread was changed...

How childish and authoritarian is that....

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!!

Don't go away. Take a step back for a second. Listen, I know quite a few of the folks on this forum personally and they are all really good people, who love discussing golf. It seems you've become very upset because the title of your thread was changed. Think of it this way, when searching for this thread the rest of us need a way to recognize it. The moderator who changed it just tried to make it easier for the rest of us to find your thread. 

Over the years I've had many thread titles changed. I've started other threads which have been merged with similar threads as well. This is a huge form. It's been around for 20 years. The moderators are just trying to keep thing tidy to help us all out. 

Give us a chance. I think you'll find this really is a great place for golf talk. I'd suggest "The Numbers Thread", "The would you rather" thread, and the "General COVID-19" thread. Go in there and poke around. There's good stuff in there. 

Remember a forum is a collection of personalities just like any forum that gets together in "real life". Some folks are better communicators than others. Some folks are wittier than others. (I'm looking at you @Double Mocha Man. I promise you if you hang around here you'll find stuff that will help your son's game. You'll find stuff that will challenge what you thought about some situations. You'll likely even make some friends. Besides if you go, who's going to teach me new words? I had to look up pedantic.... I had no idea what that meant. I was pretty sure it wasn't positive. But I went to Chicago Public Schools so my vocabulary isn't the strongest. 

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1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Don't go away.

Not much chance of that since he was banned, Chet.

Notice the username with the strike through it? 🙂

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