Will Smith vs. Chris Rock

[GolfLug]

  On 3/30/2022 at 11:26 AM, boogielicious said:

Well if you’d stop aiming at the piano

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Lol.. I have changed my insensitive ways.. I promise. 

[Golfingdad]

I believe that this might be the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect in action.  Had Smith done nothing at all, the joke would've been forgotten by the world within 5 seconds and we'd have all moved on and had a chance to be excited for him to win an Oscar.

Now, without even making an effort, the whole world knows many very dirty details about their lives, their marriage, their religion, etc that most would never have cared to know about.  Old clips of him making bald jokes on his show, on Arsenio Hall show, reminders of other similar stuff he or she has done in the past, etc etc etc, all because of that one action.

I guess if you go with the "any press is good press" theory then he was a genius for doing what he did, but I'm thinking it's really not a good look for Smith at all.

 

I agree with @Denny Bang Bang that Rock isn't "less" wrong in this, he's not wrong at all.

[Double Mocha Man]

Will Smith has forever changed his life... and he will never live this down.  A single, stupid, emotional decision can do that.

[ChetlovesMer]

  On 3/30/2022 at 5:10 PM, Golfingdad said:

I believe that this might be the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect in action.  Had Smith done nothing at all, the joke would've been forgotten by the world within 5 seconds and we'd have all moved on and had a chance to be excited for him to win an Oscar.

Now, without even making an effort, the whole world knows many very dirty details about their lives, their marriage, their religion, etc that most would never have cared to know about.  Old clips of him making bald jokes on his show, on Arsenio Hall show, reminders of other similar stuff he or she has done in the past, etc etc etc, all because of that one action.

I guess if you go with the "any press is good press" theory then he was a genius for doing what he did, but I'm thinking it's really not a good look for Smith at all.

 

I agree with @Denny Bang Bang that Rock isn't "less" wrong in this, he's not wrong at all.

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I'm not sure it's the greatest example ever. But I agree with you. It is definitely a very good example. 

[TourSpoon]

So does this mean that Madagascar 4 is off the table? 

[boogielicious]

  On 3/30/2022 at 5:48 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

Will Smith has forever changed his life... and he will never live this down.  A single, stupid, emotional decision can do that.

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Beg to differ. Everyone will get over it with all the really important things that are happening in the world right now.

[billchao]

  On 3/30/2022 at 5:48 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

Will Smith has forever changed his life... and he will never live this down.  A single, stupid, emotional decision can do that.

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Yea right. If you think he’s going to face any serious consequences from this, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

[Double Mocha Man]

  On 3/30/2022 at 6:48 PM, billchao said:

Yea right. If you think he’s going to face any serious consequences from this, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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Almost all the consequences will be to his own self-image.  And there's the possibility he'll be "blacklisted" for future movie roles if producers perceive he won't be the same box office draw.

How much are you asking for the bridge?

Edited March 30, 2022 by Double Mocha Man

[Vinsk]

  On 3/30/2022 at 7:30 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

And there's the possibility he'll be "blacklisted" for future movie roles if producers perceive he won't be the same box office draw.

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Lol! You’re being sarcastic right?

[Double Mocha Man]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:08 PM, Vinsk said:

Lol! You’re being sarcastic right?

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No.  Let's see what happens.  

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[Vinsk]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:14 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

No.  Let's see what happens.  

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Hardly a comparison. Sheen was guilty of a hell of a lot more than what Will did. And it was over years of bad behavior. WS will suffer mild consequences for a very short period of time if that. And …Charlie was never the box office draw that Will is. Also, for every example you give of career wrecking, we can give another who is doing just fine despite. Brandy, Chris Brown, to name two.

[GolfLug]

  On 3/30/2022 at 6:48 PM, billchao said:

 If you think he’s going to face any serious consequences from this,

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I have read the 'Academy' is mulling over the incidence now. I don't see how they would be done with just one boiler plate statement on this. Some fallout should be expected. 

[Double Mocha Man]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:24 PM, Vinsk said:

Hardly a comparison. Sheen was guilty of a hell of a lot more than what Will did. And it was over years of bad behavior. WS will suffer mild consequences for a very short period of time if that. And …Charlie was never the box office draw that Will is. Also, for every example you give of career wrecking, we can give another who is doing just fine despite. Brandy, Chris Brown, to name two.

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Let's revisit this in a year.  I've got you on my calendar.  

[Vinsk]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:27 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

Let's revisit this in a year.  I've got you on my calendar.  

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Lol! You’ll have forgotten all about it. Like everyone else.😁

[Double Mocha Man]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:28 PM, Vinsk said:

Lol! You’ll have forgotten all about it. Like everyone else.😁

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The calendar never forgets.  Damn technology.  😃

[Vinsk]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:25 PM, GolfLug said:

I have read the 'Academy' is mulling over the incidence now. I don't see how they would be done with just one boiler plate statement on this. Some fallout should be expected. 

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If Will chooses to take the ‘ I’m dealing with mental issues now’ then forget it. He will not only be forgiven, but he will be praised for his strength and ability to give such a great performance. He will be applauded for continuing to sit through the awards show and collect his $140k gift bag and give an acceptance speech with all the mental strain he’s enduring.

[GolfLug]

  On 3/30/2022 at 8:33 PM, Vinsk said:

If Will chooses to take the ‘ I’m dealing with mental issues now’ then forget it. He will not only be forgiven, but he will be praised for his strength and ability to give such a great performance. He will be applauded for continuing to sit through the awards show and collect his $140k gift bag and give an acceptance speech with all the mental strain he’s enduring.

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I would think the 'Academy' is self serving enough to do something in their own interest regardless of WS's mea culpa/WIP cop out. They've got far more at stake than WS.

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[Vinsk]

  On 3/30/2022 at 9:25 PM, GolfLug said:

I would think the 'Academy' is self serving enough to do something in their own interest regardless of WS's mea culpa/WIP cop out. They've got far more at stake than WS.

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Well the fact the spineless academy let him sit there and enjoy his evening and get a major award despite assaulting a presenter shows their teeth.