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Anyone know alot about the PGTAA ?

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I was just curious if there were any PGTAA Masters Teachers here or people knowledgeable about the organization. I came upon it and it seems like a pretty cool way to be accredited as a Professional golf teacher. How does having a PGTAA certificate stack up to having a PGA teaching one.

Thanks for any information!


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Never heard of the PGTAA. That may tell you something? Or not. Don't know what or how it stacks up to be a Class A PGA pros.

You have a link on it or something?
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Never heard of the PGTAA. That may tell you something? Or not. Don't know what or how it stacks up to be a Class A PGA pros.

I have never heard of it either (not that I necessarily would have), but here's the link I could find:

http://www.pgtaa.com/
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I was just curious if there were any PGTAA Masters Teachers here or people knowledgeable about the organization. I came upon it and it seems like a pretty cool way to be accredited as a Professional golf teacher. How does having a PGTAA certificate stack up to having a PGA teaching one.

PGTAA is the poor man's PGA. As far as credibility, they have just about none. Basically the PGTAA is an "easy way out" for aspiring pros that want to teach but can't really play or don't have years to commit to the PGA progam and work for a PGA pro. That doesn't mean that a PGTAA pro isn't a good teacher, but you simply won't find any PGTAA pros at any reputable golf club. They end up teaching at driving ranges and low-end muni tracks.

To enter the PGA program you have to pass a playing ability test on a predetermined date. 36 holes in one day from roughly 6300 yards, easy pins. You have to shoot no more than 15 shots over the course rating. So, given a rating of 70, that means you have to shoot 77-77 to make it. To be a Class A PGA pro the requirements are much more demanding, including several years of apprenticeship. The PGTAA playing ability requirements are much more lax. They require 4 previously attested score cards (within 90 days) of 83 or less on a par 72 course. There are plenty of good teachers out there, and some PGTAA pros are very good. But to have real credibility as a teacher or coach the PGA is the way to go. Let's face it, would you really want to take a lesson from someone who theoretically can't break 80? I want to be a doctor, but I'm not smart enough to pass the MCAT. Good thing there isn't a "National Medical Practitioner's Association" for the people that don't quite make the cut. That would be ugly... Hope I'm not killing a dream or anything! If you really want to teach golf, you could start as a PGTAA pro, but should aspire and work towards your PGA apprenticeship.
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PS - I know a fw people that went though the PGTAA program. They teach at a driving range for $20/hour. It is what it is.
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The PGA has it's place in golf. However the instructional part of the PGA course is only 10 percent. The rest is how to run a pro shop, marketing, tournament organization, agronomy, club fitting and repair, golf cart things. In other words how to run a full facility including driving range and pro shop operations.  The PGTAA concentrates on instruction only and has a player ability test that is more reasonable and realistic. The curriculum is based on learning how to teach, knowing how to teach, and understanding the faults and cures of individual swings, not a (one swing fits all) idea that the PGA thinks is the whole answer for everyone. If you want to run a golf facility and spend very little time as an instructor ( maybe 10 percent), then the PGA is the way to go. If you want a fast track to becoming a qualified (full time) highly respected instructor that is focused on a life long career, then the PGTAA is the best and most affordable option.

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I'm a little skeptical that you can learn enough to be a competent teacher with either a home-study course or a 5-day On-Site course of instruction.  I certainly wouldn't claim that there are no good instructors who have started through the PGTAA program, but the program itself seems a little light to me.

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I'm a little skeptical that you can learn enough to be a competent teacher with either a home-study course or a 5-day On-Site course of instruction.  I certainly wouldn't claim that there are no good instructors who have started through the PGTAA program, but the program itself seems a little light to me.

That's putting it lightly, but yeah… I would tend to agree.

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