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If you get bogey on every hole that would be about 90 on a par 72. If you're lucky and get par or better on at least one hole, then you would've broken 90....

Keep your head down, remember to transfer your weight during the swing, always pick the longer club if you're debating what to hit, practice chipping and putting, and don't let one bad shot drag you down into 2 or 3 bad shots.

For me it comes down to the par 3 and par 5 holes. On par 3s I want to ALWAYS par or better. For par 5s, I don't mind bogeys but realistically, I should par every par 5 if I layup on my 2nd shot. When I go back and look at my round stats it is these 2 hole types where I falter the most. I need to pound it in my head that I can make a GIR on the 3rd shot into the green on a par 5 because, for some reason, I end up pulling my hybrid or 3 wood out on the 2nd shot, when in reality I'd still be 30 yards out if I hit it flush. What's the point?

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Any suggestions?

Dont take more than 89 strokes..!!!

just kidding im in the same boat,ive broken 90 twice but would love to make it consistant...i think for me it would be to make par or better on the par 3's and to eliminate those 3 putts,that would surely shave at least 10 strokes of my score resulting in under 90 totals....good luck....

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I think ball striking is the biggest key. I dont expect to hit a lot of g.i..r., but if my misses are in chipping distance, even a little longer pitch, then I can make bogeys. Hopefully a few greens hit per round would mean a few pars also. My problems come in when Im 150 out and chunk it 70 yards. Im still not a lock to get it on the green from 80, and this is usually where my doubles come from.

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Find the fairway, then find the green, in the least amount of shots. Problem solved.

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This is what I would do (mightn't be a good idea).

BE AGGRESSIVE!

Don't lay up on the par 5's, try smash that 3 wood (or driver if you can hit it) down next to the green.
Don't bother hitting a iron off the tee, hit a driver.
Have you got a 60* wedge? they're really helpful.

good luck!

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Nothing higher bogey. No big numbers, so that means no doubles, triples. To do that, don't try to hit around trees, course management is a big key. Practice alot of short game, how to get out of bunkers, ect.. Practice lag putting, don't leave your self 4-5 come back putts.

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make more pars and less double boogies. The scores starts from the hole backwards, so keep your putts under 36 or two putt every hole and your left with 53 strokes for 18 holes without putting.

The key is putting and chipping around the green in my book.

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I disagree. Get the ball on more fairways and less in the trees. Being on the green in two or three shots compared to four or five makes a huge difference. You are also prone to focus more on the putting if you putt for par, rather than double bogey.

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+1 on shooting no more than 89 shots!

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This is what I would do (mightn't be a good idea).

With all due respect... I don't think this is the right way to breaking 90. Shooting low is all about GIRs. It's hard to do that from the woods, lake or rough.

Hitting driver off of the tee and gunning for the green on par 5's is a risky way to play that will often create the big numbers. Want to break 80? Avoid big numbers. Your chance of making pars and bogeys is much greater after a par or a bogey than say a double or a triple. I'd advocate any player looking to seriously lower his score to take the driver out of the bag . Leave it in the basement. Yep, even that new pretty R9. Until you can keep your 3W, hybrid and long irons in play confidently off of the tee, the driver will only be a crutch and distraction. For what it's worth, the course I play is a par 72, 6700 yards with a slope of 72.7 and a rating of 127. It's not terribly easy, it's long and it can be tight off of the tee. I'll hit driver 6-8 times in a round, and rely on my 3, 4, 5 iron and hybrid on quite a few holes. Think about it, would you rather hit from 60 yards in the rough or behind a tree (or worse OB) or from 105 yards in the fairway? Course management and short game is the way to low scores, especially as your game improves. Just my $.02.

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Its not about GIR, the last time i shot near 90 was at Firestone North in Akron Ohio, the last time before that has been a few years. But i break 90 with only hitting a handful of greens each round, usually 3-5. THe reason is that i only 3 putt once every few rounds. I can get up and down a few times each round. I don't hit the ball out of bounds, even if there is out of bounds right i will blast it in the left rough if i have an opening to the green. If i know i can't get around a tree i will punch it down the fairway for a wedge. I aim for the fat parts of the greens. If i can't hit an iron into the par 5, i lay up. I can get out of bunkers in one try.

Its these things thats let me get into th 80's, if i do have a good GIR day then i can shoot in the single digits. So its elminating mistakes, not taking big numbers. Understanding some short game basics. Key to not three putting, lag putting. Get that speed control down that you can put every putt 18 inches behind the hole.

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1. Keep the ball in play
2. Dont try for the hero shot (take the one extra shot to hit the ball on the green)
3. Have someone else keep your score
4. Let your game take care of its self

Short game. If you have a real good short game, which, by that I mean you are good within 100 yards, you're going to break 90 most of the time....

Unless you have some type of horrific game outside of 100 yards, which I'm sure you don't...

So really breaking 90 is short game.

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