Fight at the Golf Course!!

[gildea909]

hahah pretty funny, who said golf isnt physical?

[jlh1508]

hahah pretty funny, who said golf isnt physical?

really? funny? Are you a barbarian? How is it funny that a guy was beaten on a golf course with weapons and had to be taken to the hospital?

[Tiger Spuds]

Completely unnecessary on the course, and a sad indictment of society today.Can't even enjoy a relaxing round of Golf without getting worked up about something small like that?Bad form.

That said, I would love to see a proper argument between two tour pros.. just once.

Likely candidates :

Rory Sabbatini, Bubba Watson, Ian Poulter, Kevin Stadler.

[Blades4me]

This happened this weekend at a course here in Utah.

Last year in Wa state one golfer went after another with a 6i. The attacker went to jail and is now serving time for assult with a deadly weapon. This year at the course I'm in the Men's Club at there were 3 Portland police cars out on #14, (don't know if it was Grt Blue or Greenback), also at this time Heron Lakes is being very quite about it. IMO this is some of the crowd that Tiger Woods brought into golf.

I have noticed over the last 5 or so years that asking to play thru is almost like picking a fight now. Glad I'm 6'3" and 210 lbs and in very good shape with a quite demenor. LOL, noticed you are from Tooele. I used to be fanatical about windsurfing at Rush lake back in the early 80's--then in the late 80's I moved to Hood River.

[Fat Slice]

Nope but saw something close. I was in a foursome, with a pesky foursome behind us that showed up at the turn. The group behind us kept hitting into us on 10 and at the 11th tee they claimed we jumped them. Actually, they jumped the people in front of them and that's why they didn't recognize us. We told them they were wrong, asked for the original tee time, explained what they did, etc. Again, they hit into us. At the tee on 12 (an uphill par 5) the roll up while we are teeing off and start heckling us. One guy in our foursome (I didn't know personally) gets SUPER pissed and turns on the four guys. There's a lot of yelling and nose-to-nose bumping and maybe a shove or two...I don't remember, only know it didn't come to blows. They were all at the tee box in a scrum and I was busy doing something. Anyway, we finish teeing off and the guy in our group is still pissed off and yelling back at them. I drive my cart over to him as we're all driving to our balls and tell him to relax - that I have a present for him. When we stop at our second shots, I give him his present: two cart keys. HAHAHAHA! That was the last we saw of those guys.

Me, I'm easy. Even if someone else is totally in the wrong I am not going to escalate it to violence. I'm there to golf, not fight.

[Stretch]

When we stop at our second shots, I give him his present: two cart keys. HAHAHAHA! That was the last we saw of those guys.

Beautiful! Much respect.

IMO this is some of the crowd that Tiger Woods brought into golf.

Older white guys? Pretty sure that demographic was playing the game occasionally even before he came along.

[jdotConnor]

My father and I were playing on a texas course near my grandparents house in Austin. Very nice course. My father and I can walk a course in sub 3 hours without rushing and we were riding that day. It was 3 years ago so I was 22 and had gained 20 lbs in the past 6 months (in a good way) and about 30 yards on my drive to the 295-305 range and it was a bit breezy. After waiting on every hole for the group ahead of us without seeing anyone in front of them we were playing "poison" on the teebox when we see them pull their carts to the green on a wideopen 450ish par 4 18th. I hit a great drive about 310 with a slight tail wind but I pushed it a bit so it found a bunker on the inside right corner of a dog leg fairway. Just after I hit it their 3rd cart (foursome with three carts) came from a hilly, tall grass waste area where carts were not allowed on the right. I yell "fore" although my ball is well beyond him and nowhere near as far right as he is. He notices the ball past him in the bunker, pulls his cart to the bunker, gets out and stomps on my ball. I'm blown away. I drop my ball a few feet back in the bunker, make a great shot and make my only birdie of the day. As we park our cart by the proshop I see the guy and am the better man. I start "hey man, I'm sorry about that. I didn't see you...." "F*** YOU you piece of S***" blah blah etc. He's wasted. My last fight was in 3rd grade against what would be a good friend Matt Kitchen. We both ended up with bloody lips and other cuts but it was a good fight. Since then I have been non confrontational and am always the "good guy" to friends. The guy went off on me while I was apologizing for not really doing anything wrong. I lost my cool and got in his face. My dad had to drag me to the car but I was ready to fight the shorter but bigger drunk guy. In retrospect it is embarassing but if the same thing happened again I would react the same I think. We, as a two-some, both sub 10 handicaps, in a cart played a 5.5 hour round. called the proshop 5 times with no help. In our case, I blame the marshall or lack of and the cart girl for selling them so much alcohol. His single person cart had about 12 empty cans. it took what was a decent round for me and made it a miserable day.

[Blades4me]

Nope but saw something close. I was in a foursome, with a pesky foursome behind us that showed up at the turn. The group behind us kept hitting into us on 10 and at the 11th tee they claimed we jumped them. Actually, they jumped the people in front of them and that's why they didn't recognize us. We told them they were wrong, asked for the original tee time, explained what they did, etc. Again, they hit into us. At the tee on 12 (an uphill par 5) the roll up while we are teeing off and start heckling us. One guy in our foursome (I didn't know personally) gets SUPER pissed and turns on the four guys. There's a lot of yelling and nose-to-nose bumping and maybe a shove or two...I don't remember, only know it didn't come to blows. They were all at the tee box in a scrum and I was busy doing something. Anyway, we finish teeing off and the guy in our group is still pissed off and yelling back at them. I drive my cart over to him as we're all driving to our balls and tell him to relax - that I have a present for him. When we stop at our second shots, I give him his present: two cart keys. HAHAHAHA! That was the last we saw of those guys.

Taking the cart keys--what a great idea. I'll remember that and thank you. That sounds so much better than reverting back to my 20's and pushing ppl's faces in over 25 cents at the pool table.

[kfowler]

Can't say I've ever seem one turn physical. Definitely more prominent at munis since they're more crowded than privates. Excessive drinking certainly plays a role.

One of the funnier ones I've heard came from my dad. He worked as a ranger a course he's played at for years. Dad's in his late 60's but at 6'2" is still a big guy. Anyway, an older gentleman and his wife were playing and they kept driving their cart on the shoulder of the green. My dad asked him not to do that. They did it again and my dad asked if he didn't hear him the first time. The guy got pissed and started waving his club at my dad. My dad responded with "Are you threatening me?". I think his wife got a hold of him and calmed him down. Turns out after the round the guy came up and apologized for his behavior.

[cougar978]

Some dude got stabbed at West Neck this weekend - not sure if it was between course workers or players.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/crime...,6316662.story

[rjfan91]

This was within the maintenance shop.

[Colinb913]

I can keep my cool through alot of things. But I think that if someone was going to confront me over golf, and kept nagging me on, something might happen. I mean, I am in no way a confrontational person, but reading some of your guys stories, I would have probably done something worth regretting.

I have been yelled at before for playing slowly, but I just told the guy to pull up to the top of the hill, and look at what I was waiting on.. After seeing three people right on the other side of the hill, he shut up.

[Greg]

I like that idea, taking the cart keys, especially if the other group was drunk, it would take them so long to figure out what to do that you wouldnt see them again. Ill remember that in case I have a similar problem in the future, its always more fun to outsmart someone. If they're electric carts, i would have lifted the seat and disconnected the battery, they would never figure that one out, they would just think the cart went dead.

[Jell0b0y]

Can't say I've ever seem one turn physical. Definitely more prominent at munis since they're more crowded than privates. Excessive drinking certainly plays a role.

I have a membership at a local Muni and there was a lot of drinking on the course.YOu could pull up to the tee box and see beer bottles laying around. a new manager took over and now you can't drink and is strickly enforced by the police department since the corse is located in the park and now all players must have sleeves so were moving up in the world. Wpuld love to join the local semi-private coruse here but the muni is half the price and I am kind of cheap :)

[allin]

I imagine that something like this is what happened in the story the OP posted. Course regulars are probably the worst when it comes to something like this. They feel they own the course and they have their set tee times and when someone cuts in front of them (even with permission), or doesn't play fast enough, it can get ugly. And I know for a fact that a lot of those older guys, usually retired military or police are armed. If they don't have a gun in their bag you know they've got something in their car and those are the types that are capable of just about anything if they get backed up against a wall. I try to always keep that in mind when dealing with an angry or rude regular who feels I've (or someone I'm with) has done something to step on their toes. Leagues can be bad about this too. They've been playing the course forever and when it's their time to go you'd better get out of their way. Munis are probably more prone to this kind of behavior because private clubs are much more controlled by course staff. A marshall on the course can nip this in the bud, but sometimes the marshalls are just as bad as the rude regulars.

Your generalizations about military and police are kind of broad, but your points about attitude are right on. I play at a course frequently with some of the guys who work there and they are borderline proud of what I consider rude behavior, hurrying up to hit their shot on a par five even if they are in another players line of vision, failing to recognize when slow play is because of ignorance, not lack of skill etc. I would tell you almost all of these gentleman are really good guys, but put them on a golf course self rightous behavior replaces courtesy. On the other side I see people who drive their carts almost on top of sand traps and greens, or on wet fairways even when posted cart paths only, play mulligans wherever, take chunks out of the green or tee after a poor shot, the list is almost endless. Its ironic given the tradition of golf as a gentlemans game?

[Undr Par]

I can keep my cool through alot of things. But I think that if someone was going to confront me over golf, and kept nagging me on, something might happen. I mean, I am in no way a confrontational person, but reading some of your guys stories, I would have probably done something worth regretting.

pretty similiar here, not a confrontational guy either....way more important things in life to worry about, (like my wife, 2 kids...and just making it in the everyday world) golf for me is a outlet, not something that I take to seriously...(scoring well and improving are very important to me of course) but to the point I'm going to get into a fight over weather someone can play through or not....just isn't happening for me...

[Colinb913]

pretty similiar here, not a confrontational guy either....way more important things in life to worry about, (like my wife, 2 kids...and just making it in the everyday world) golf for me is a outlet, not something that I take to seriously...(scoring well and improving are very important to me of course) but to the point I'm going to get into a fight over weather someone can play through or not....just isn't happening for me...

Can't say I have a wife or kids to live for, but I would rather be allowed back at my course, then kicked off for getting into a fight with some drunk jackass.

[Undr Par]

be allowed back at my course, then kicked off for getting into a fight with some drunk jackass.

exactly, just another reason why this situation is terrible....