A new spin on Tiger....

[Valleygolfer]

Tiger's physique is positively attainable with a dedicated workout. He has been training for a while and it is nothing beyond a normal focused workout with the best equipment and trainers available which I am sure he takes advantage of. You fat slubs that accuse anyone who has muscles that show as a PED user is just plain lazy and envious.

[golfro]

lol @ comparing Elin's "modeling career" to Heidi Klum.

Not sure if you have some kind of boy crush on Elin but she was never a professional model. She MODELED, but she was never a MODEL. big difference. She was about as much of a model as the local high school girl who does the catalogs for JC Penny. Aka, Elin never had a modeling career.

[PooN]

  Valleygolfer said:

Tiger's physique is positively attainable with a dedicated workout. He has been training for a while and it is nothing beyond a normal focused workout with the best equipment and trainers available which I am sure he takes advantage of. You fat slubs that accuse anyone who has muscles that show as a PED user is just plain lazy and envious.

I have to agree with this... Tiger was the greatest golfer in the field well before his muscles got big. He attained his physique over time.

[muggs]

  Valleygolfer said:

Tiger's physique is positively attainable with a dedicated workout. He has been training for a while and it is nothing beyond a normal focused workout with the best equipment and trainers available which I am sure he takes advantage of. You fat slubs that accuse anyone who has muscles that show as a PED user is just plain lazy and envious.

No question. That said, you're foolish to think PEDs are out of the question. Considering their prominence in every other sport, from MLB to cycling, to female sprinters...Tiger taking PEDs to help maintain and even add to his already unbelievable talents and abilities is most definitely a possibility.

Tiger was also quick to speak out against the need for testing on tour when Gary Player spoke out on the need for it.

[Kieran123]

Sigh....just because someone is physically fit, they use Steroids now? Has no one heard of Tiger's work ethic?

A lot of players on Tour must be on steroids then eh?

Overton must be using them, because he hits it so far, and his over the top reaction to that missed putt shows the roid rage right there.....

[sonnydamico pdx]

  iacas said:

Yeah, let's just make things up now. That always goes well.

Finally, the calm voice of reason (in the middle of what may be the MOST weird, unrealistic and out-of-touch with-reality thread ever in the forum). "Giant thank you", iacas.

[newtogolf]

  iacas said:

Yeah, let's just make things up now. That always goes well.

It's called speculation, I didn't realize everything in this thread was based on fact except my post. Obviously no one here knows with any certainty why Tiger is playing poorly.

[golfro]

  newtogolf said:

It's called speculation, I didn't realize everything in this thread was based on fact except my post. Obviously no one here knows with any certainty why Tiger is playing poorly.

fine line between speculation and creating stories in your head. perhaps tiger's been kidnapped by aliens and has a big shaft shoved up his ass and that is why he is playing poorly.

Perhaps Elin is actually in need of attention so this is all an elaborate plot to create publicity around Elin and Tiger so they can become the new Heidi and Spencer? Perhaps Tiger is energized by having sex with porn stars, thus his energy has been drained low? You see what I'm getting at here? It's one thing to speculate but to weave together random things to create a story is another.

[Valleygolfer]

  golfro said:

fine line between speculation and creating stories in your head. perhaps tiger's been kidnapped by aliens and has a big shaft shoved up his ass and that is why he is playing poorly.

I like where you are going with this one....

[golfro]

  Valleygolfer said:

I like where you are going with this one....

Perhaps Tiger is actually a real Tiger morphed into human form and he's finally losing his Tiger specie powers thus he's playing poorly.

Perhaps Tiger is actually Elin and they are the same person and there is no spoon. Perhaps this is all a dream and we are all projections in Tiger's limbo. (PS, Inception was AWESOMEEEE)

[Valleygolfer]

  muggs said:

No question. That said, you're foolish to think PEDs are out of the question. Considering their prominence in every other sport, from MLB to cycling, to female sprinters...Tiger taking PEDs to help maintain and even add to his already unbelievable talents and abilities is most definitely a possibility.

I think your personal distain for Tiger taints your rational thoughts and could be regarded as foolish as well. With my own eyes and knowledge of body building and the effect of HGH which is the big money drug of choice, he just does not have the physique of someone who uses them.

[pittpanther]

  golfro said:

lol @ comparing Elin's "modeling career" to Heidi Klum.

This entire "Elin was a model" crap was probably started by people in Tiger's camp, once it became clear they were going to marry. Perhaps an attempt to deflect questions concerning why a billionaire athlete would get together with a lowly nanny.

Notice that Chelsea Clinton didn't marry a UPS delivery guy (no offense to UPS delivery guys, btw). She married someone at her level. Tiger, not so much...

[newtogolf]

  Valleygolfer said:

With my own eyes and knowledge of body building and the effect of HGH which is the big money drug of choice, he just does not have the physique of someone who uses them.

It's a common misconception that everyone using HGH and steroids looks Barry Bonds or a professional body builder. A-Rod, an admitted PED user, has a similar physique to Tiger. A PED user is different than an abuser, it takes doses well beyond what's recommended and stacking multiple PED's to look like the Hulk, but you can benefit from following a PED regimen approved by a doctor.

[Valleygolfer]

  newtogolf said:

It's a common misconception that everyone using HGH and steroids looks Barry Bonds or a professional body builder. A-Rod, an admitted PED user, has a similar physique to Tiger. A PED user is different than an abuser, it takes doses well beyond what's recommended and stacking multiple PED's to look like the Hulk, but you can benefit from following a PED regimen approved by a doctor.

I can agree with that. It depends on what i taken for how long, etc. But then if you are going to call him a user based on looks, it would be erroneous. So either way my statement is true unless he is tested or says he used them.

[jerrywilkin]

Maybe he's trying to play like us duffers so the people will relate to him now & start pulling for him instead of judging & criticising him. Watching him play lately reminds me of the way I play & the guys at the club,or in the golf leagues. That's one theory,the other is; maybe he has lost his edge. he once felt invisible,the best of the best,mr.perfect,proud as a peacock. now he has been humbled,found out he is human,just like the rest of us,and now is playing like the rest of us. maybe he will never get it back. I'm hoping he does.

[Cali]

now thats just silly

[Radford Wooly]

  kpaulhus said:

Not a chance.

Second that reply!!

[Shorty]

  Valleygolfer said:

Is it possible that Tiger's poor play is an effort to run the ship into the ground, lose sponsors and decrease his net worth so that he doesn't give up more dough to his soon to be ex-wife? Showing how is image is hurt and he is not worth as much?

My opinion is that you have too much time on your hands and it terrifies me to think that someone with such bizarre ideas may be in a position of authority.

Talk about not having a grip on reality......