Torque ?

[Gerald]

In what way is torque helping us ......

I can understand that less torque increases accuracy and that more torque decreases accuracy.

But that can't be "all", because then about every driver would have 2.5 grad torque.

I might be temted to replace the current shaft of my driver with one that has 1 - 1.5 less torque to increase accuracy, but I need to understand what torque is doing to a golfclub and why most stock shafts have a torque of 4.0 to even 6.0 ???

Does more torque help, and if so in which way ....... ?

Please advise !

[ronaldkuntoro]

Torque rating is how much your golf shaft twist during a hit. The lower the Torque the less your shaft twist. But that does not mean you will be more accurate will a low torque shaft.

Low torque around 3.0 might even give less accuracy for your shot if your swing is still slicing or hooking. That will cause your slice and hooks even worse. I have tried this before. My fade becomes a slice since I switched to a low torque shaft. So If you're still not consistent with your swing, a higher torque might help you.

But I would suggest the slower you swing, the higher torque you need. Torque can affect the height trajectory of your ball. If you swing around 90-95 Mph, a torque rating above 4.0 is recommended.

Torque level around 3.0 is only recommended for Pro golfers.... if you have a really high swing speed and dead accurate with your driver.

[My Golf Ltd]

As already stated, torque is to do with the way the shaft twists (or resists twisting) when you load it - i.e. when you swing.The higher the rating the higher the ball will fly but it may be more difficult to maintain accuracy and the softer it will feel. A shaft with 3 deg of torque will feel much stiffer than a shaft with 5 deg for example. Its not quite true to say that a level of 3 deg is for Pro's. There are many more properties, such as bend profile, kick point, etc etc that need to be taken into account when chosing a shaft. That's where custom clubfitting comes in!!

[misty_mountainhop]

As already stated, torque is to do with the way the shaft twists (or resists twisting) when you load it - i.e. when you swing.

Torque is to do with rotational force. There is no

a priori reason why higher torque rating == higher ball flight. At least I think not. I think I'm right in saying that the recent vogue for high(ish) torque shafts is to do with the large, modern, 460cc heads on most drivers. I think the higher torque will favour making the squaring of the clubface through impact easier. Don't quote me though as I could be talking balls!

[Gerald]

Whenever there is a thread on white board or blue board stiff this , X-stiff that, I see so may replies and so many people seem to know which shaft brings out the supernatral in golfer X, Y, Z...... but now I ask a little bit of extra tech ..... quiet ...... OKAY I like what has been said sofar, but one is saying 3.0 torque is only for Tour Pro, another say it is not, one says high Torque .... high ballflight, another says it doesn't have to be so...

Looking at shaft specs, there are 3.6 torque shafts promoting a low-mid trajectory, but there are also 2.6 torque shafts with a mid-high trajectory, there are so many variables, that is difficult to figure out what is best.......

What might be de difference between let's say a 60 gram stiff shaft, with 2.6 Torque and a mid-high trajectory and a also 60 gram stiff shaft, with 4.8 Torque and a low trajectory ....... geeeee diffifult it is.

I personally tend to hit my drives fairly high, hit them in the upswing, tee up high also, my driver swingspeed is about 100-105 Mph and my current 9.5 Callaway FT-iZ Tour Drivers with Aldila Voodoo 60 Stiff shaft has 3.5 torque ....... I would like a lower trajectory and hopefully some extra 10-20 yds roll.

Would I be needing a stiffer shaft, no .... I personally feel my swingspeed matches my shaft flex, lower torque .... lower flight, or would I need same torque, higher kickpoint as like in the Aldila NV 65 or 75 or Diamana Withe 73

At shops advise is mostly measured by making the best margin (of course, cannot blame them).

Any clubfitters around here, please explain the differences.

[jamo]

The only effect torque has on launch angle and ball height is that if there is less torque the clubface will be open (and thus the loft is effectively increased) and more torque means the clubface will be more closed (and thus the loft is effectively decreased). You can have a high launch, low torque shaft and a low launch, low torque shaft. Things like flex, kick point, etc. all change launch angle and ball height.

[Harmonious]

Looking at shaft specs, there are 3.6 torque shafts promoting a low-mid trajectory, but there are also 2.6 torque shafts with a mid-high trajectory, there are so many variables, that is difficult to figure out what is best.......

Here's a link to Golfsmith's shaft selector:

http://www.golfsmith.com/cm/shaft_selector.php Plug in your data, and see what it suggests for you. I would suggest that if you want a lower ball flight, don't tee up your ball so high.

[chilly]

If you look at the Golfworks shaft selector deal, the shafts that supposedly help a slice are all high torque. The shaft allows the clubface to release easier, helping to square the face. Opposite would be true for something designed to prevent the face from closing, low torque.

[allin]

Torque rating is how much your golf shaft twist during a hit. The lower the Torque the less your shaft twist. But that does not mean you will be more accurate will a low torque shaft.

Torque is the amount the shaft twists prior to impact. In the early days of graphite before filament winding and sheet wrapped clubs this was a big issue. Low torque was equated with higher quality. In current clubs the impact is more about feel for most golfers. In Drivers torque between 3-5 has minimal effect. it may exaggerate your clubface timing either open or closed slightly. Golf clubs flex through an arc so forward and back bending. like a buggy whip, relly does not apply. Unless you have a high swing speed, high end of stiff or more, feel may be compromised by excessively low torque. Speeds at the high end may feel whippy or soft so high swing speed golfers may prefer lower torque. Since we respond to feel as we swing a torque that doesn't give us our preferred feedback results in poor timing and may result in exaggerated hooks or slices.

[allin]

Here's a link to Golfsmith's shaft selector:

Loft has the greatest impact on ball flight. If your shaft flex is correct the other factors are all best applied as small adjustments, there are many, don't forget your ball choice, that serve as spices added to your equipment basics.

[msd3075]

This thread is just further evidence that you should be fit for your driver instead of trying to fit yourself. There are so many variables/specs that all work together in determining how a shaft performs that the average hacker will never get it right on the first, second, or twentieth try.

[golfro]

This thread is just further evidence that you should be fit for your driver instead of trying to fit yourself. There are so many variables/specs that all work together in determining how a shaft performs that the average hacker will never get it right on the first, second, or twentieth try.

very true. i'll admit, until this past year, i've never really taken the time to get fit for my driver. I just stuck with a stiff shaft and figured its fine. For the most part, as long as the ball goes forward, its really fine for me...but once you take the game alittle more serious and you're playing at a level where the small equipment details matter, i think getting fitted is very important.

[Gerald]

Getting fitted .... start a new thread on that .....

http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...020#post510020