2010 Ryder Cup

[mjtoal]

I've seen this same thing mentioned a few times......

An excellent example of the use of CAPITALS instead of sensible arguments.

Anyone could see from his celebration that Overton was an American. Looked like he thought he was in combat and had just landed a grenade on an enemy placement. He is a good golfer, but I think he lacks something that the great players have.

[jangro]

Anyone could see from his celebration that Overton was an American. Looked like he thought he was in combat and had just landed a grenade on an enemy placement. He is a good golfer, but I think he lacks something that the great players have.

What's that? Letters in his postal code? ;)

And really, if Overton was on the European team he wouldn't have done that? There were class-acts, douchebaggery, and over-the-top celebrations on both teams. I cringed at Overton's celebration (actually even more so at Watson's on the same shot), just like I got a annoyed by Poulter's, Rory's and Molinari's celebrations. It seems to me that the behavior is dictated much more by the individual personalities and who is at home rather than where they're from. If you're surrounded by tens of thousands of homeys you're just going to be a bit braver with the celebrations and get caught up in it all. In the end, it is all pretty understandable. Is there any event so emotionally charged as the Ryder cup? Look at how many of these guys can be brought to tears in interviews afterwards. Hell, I get pumped up in a local 4 man scramble when we birdie a par 4. I may even have said, "Boom baby!" before, but I'm not entirely sure about that. They usually don't televise our matches. thankfully :) BTW, can someone explain "mash potatoes" to me?

[jamo]

Anyone could see from his celebration that Overton was an American. Looked like he thought he was in combat and had just landed a grenade on an enemy placement. He is a good golfer, but I think he lacks something that the great players have.

Not really. His celebration wasn't all that different from Poulter's. He clenched his fists and yelled. In the Tiger era that's kinda the stock golf celebration.

[Acropo]

Not really. His celebration wasn't all that different from Poulter's. He clenched his fists and yelled. In the Tiger era that's kinda the stock golf celebration.

I had no problem with his celebration at all - in fact, I'm storing it in my mental locker to be whipped out on the course at the right moment!

Anyway - how can any European have an issue with it, given that we loved Ian Poulter's on-fire fist-pumping, Graeme McDwoell's fist-pumping, Rory's yells, etc, etc? I loved seeing all of them!

[ilovecheesypuffs]

I don't have an issue with either sides celebrations, it's good to see a good deal of passion showed and that is what the Ryder cup is all about, as long as it does not effect the shot of their opponent (aka Brookline).

Well, he dresses like a douchebag on the tour.

I would say that Mr Poulter always looks sharp and smart on tour in his savile row, tailored clothing, puts many of the other US tour players who shop at walmart to shame

[Zeph]

I would say that Mr Poulter always looks sharp and smart on tour in his savile row, tailored clothing, puts many of the other US tour players who shop at walmart to shame

Agreed. He is by far one of the best dressed players on the PGA Tour.

[golfro]

Poulter certainly dresses different than the average guy but i think he looks great. sometimes he looks a bit over the top and i prefer the clean athletic looks of Tiger and some of the guys wearing Adidas.

as for his personality, I prefer that over the emotionless robots that golfers sometimes get portrayed as. its not so much because its entertaining but they're human...its only natural to have emotions during an event. Wait til you get someone like Ron Artest in the PGA Tour. :) Brawl on the fairway?!

[Plox]

Uh, Johnny Miller or someone called it "a big flare way right." So not very good poetry.

Coming from the guy who called Poulter a "poor ball striker" at a recent event, I think I'll choose to ignore his nonsense.

[iacas]

Coming from the guy who called Poulter a "poor ball striker" at a recent event, I think I'll choose to ignore his nonsense.

And statistically, Poulter is.

[sean_miller]

And statistically, Poulter is.

According to one self proclaimed official TST statistician, you can't be a good putter or have a good short game without being a really good ball striker. Doesn't Poults leave his peers in the dust around the greens?

[JWL1957]

Nobody from the Europe should be on here preaching about sports etiquette when they have roving soccer/football gangs going around beating people down before and after matches. Been there and seen it up close.

[Acropo]

Nobody from the Europe should be on here preaching about sports etiquette when they have roving soccer/football gangs going around beating people down before and after matches. Been there and seen it up close.

Who is preaching about sports etiquette? I'm European and I've said I liked 'Boom, baby!' and I'll probably use it myself. As for your comment about soccer hooligans, well, I live in England and I have only once had any trouble at all - and that's over a few decades. Someone once said of crowd misbehaviour "American sports fans do riot - it's just that they do it at home, with a few six-packs in front of the TV". To illustrate the point, we were treated to a short film of various large-tummied gentlemen hanging out of windows screaming 'we've won!' and other tasty morsels while throwing various items at passers-by on the streets below. Interestingly, when I visited a couple of RnB clubs in Chicago a couple of years ago I had a great time, once people heard me speak. Don't know if it was the accent but I do know that my (white) friend, who lives locally, was crapping himself - literally, shaking with fear. What does that have to do with sports etiquette? About as much as football hooligans have to do with golf.

[Acropo]

Everyone is acting like he's a loser and the "Classy" Euros were perfect, get real I heard folks laughing and clapping on misses, and I saw a women on the back of 17 even imploring a ball of the Americans to roll off the back of the green.

I didn't, and I was there.

I did see a couple of American women getting excited about a ball that was rolling off into a bunker - they were 'oh no!' 'please!' etc and waving their hands at it as if they could stop it. I said earlier that I wouldn't want anyone to get the impression that US misses or misfortunes were cheered - they weren't. We cheered our own players to encourage them on. If a US player missed and the European still had a putt, we cheered the Euro on. If the hole was halved, we cheered encouragement for the Euro. If the Euro lost, we shouted encouragement for the next hole. If anyone missed anything - green, hole, fairway, lunch - the most you'd hear would be 'ooooh!'. Then, after an interval - often short but still noticeable - there would be shouts of encouragment for the Euro. When a player was about to play, you could have heard a pin drop - whichever side they were from. The only noise that occurred during a swing was Dottie Pepper sneezing. No bangs, no coughs, no shouts, no hisses of 'miss it' (never mind disparaging anatomical descriptions). If anyone was whispering during a shot set-up, the crowd around shushed them. This was a huge crowd for a golf event - 45,000 a day, the largest chunk lining 16, 17 and 18. There was banter, light-hearted teasing and it was excited but, overall, the people there were really very well-behaved.

[Judah Ben-Hur]

I don't have an issue with either sides celebrations, it's good to see a good deal of passion showed and that is what the Ryder cup is all about, as long as it does not effect the shot of their opponent (aka Brookline).

What US tour players shop at Walmart?

Agreed. He is by far one of the best dressed players on the PGA Tour.

I'll have to put him in the attention getter mold. No man that I know would be caught dead wearing that garb.

[James_Black]

I'll have to put him in the attention getter mold. No man that I know would be caught dead wearing that garb.

nobody you know has the game to pull it off.

Your allowed to dress like a tosser if you can actually play. If I walked onto the course dressed like him and hacked my was around the course I'd be a laughing stock. If I went around shooting a 64, well I'd get quite a bit of attention.

[Judah Ben-Hur]

Why do you American's hate Poulter so much?

I'm sure he wouldn't be pleased by you referring him to a "tosser." That one just sailed out of bounds. You've got 5 minutes to find it or it's one "stroke."

nobody you know has the game to pull it off.

I'm sure there are many people laughing at the wardrobe and they could care less what he's put up on the board. A clown is still a clown even if he doesn't make the kids laugh. I just hope Ian doesn't fall into Imelda Marcos' penchant for footwear. She also liked to play dress up.

[billysandy]

And statistically, Poulter is.

Erik, are you saying Poulter is a good ballstriker or a bad one?

http://www.europeantour.com/european...hfs/index.html check that out if you are suggesting the latter.

Nobody from the Europe should be on here preaching about sports etiquette when they have roving soccer/football gangs going around beating people down before and after matches. Been there and seen it up close.

Those soccer related attacks happen rarely here, and they are a tiny tiny minority of violent sports fans, who's activities are generally gang related anyway.

I think Poulter probably goes bonkers the most of any I've seen. The double chicken wing thing after making a putt reminds of little scrawny rooster strutting around the yard thinking he's some kind of Fog Horn Leghorn Jr. He couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag is what makes it comical. When he gets a little older, we can call him Rod Stewart lite.

Not that Overton's celebration was over the top, but i think it was Overton who went bonkers more than anyone else. It was funny to see, and I didn't mind seeing a little emotion. When you are better than Poulter, check back here and you can insult him in an immature manner all you like, but until that time, he is infinitely better than a little punk on a golf forum.

[Zeph]

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Yeah, being one of the best players in the world he definitely needs the attention. Says more about you than him really.