My Swing (iacas)

[iacas]

Mostly some backswing work, with a teeny bit of work on the transition. Just messing with a different feeling.

Didn't care too much about the "flow" stuff today, so it wasn't perfect.

Pretty pleased with this work. Backswing is still too long, but even given that… I liked a lot of how my wrists, shoulder, forearms behaved.

P.S. Second DL video slightly better than the first. The first was really only worrying about the backswing. I let go on the second swing not because of a bad swing but because I probably went at it a little harder and I felt a little pull on the muscle that I strained.

[downbylaw11]

the backswing looks good, though like you said it could stand to be a little shorter.  you get the club started well in transition, but then suddenly your arms take over and you get pretty steep.  I've noticed this in some of your other videos, but not all of them. you then slide forward a good 4 inches and stand up to square the face as you really turn over the hands through impact.  but since youre working on your backswing, maybe none of that matters.  but yeah, the backswing looks good. 

[iacas]

28 minutes ago, downbylaw11 said:

then suddenly your arms take over and you get pretty steep.  I've noticed this in some of your other videos, but not all of them. you then slide forward a good 4 inches and stand up to square the face as you really turn over the hands through impact.

Respectfully, no. That’s almost entirely inaccurate 

Please stick maybe to the theoretical discussions.

[iacas]

 

Still feeling the muscle strain, tried out a feeling of more propelling the clubhead back, didn't love it. Didn't hate it entirely, didn't love it. These are just "meh."

[iacas]

The above is some early practice I did, keeping in mind some things from the day before. Feel ain't real, folks, and that is made even more clear by the notes to myself in this video:

It's coming along.

[Nail]

@iacas is the flow stuff you are working on lately a new idea, I noticed it in the practice plan and I just hadnt noticed it on the site before, not that golfers haven't always done it. I noticed on your vids a shift of the hips to the right at the start of your takeaway, have you always done that?

[mdl]

Have you gone away from not trying to be steep at A5?

 

[Tepi90]

On 4/12/2020 at 2:07 AM, iacas said:

I felt a little pull on the muscle that I strained.

Out of curiosity, which muscle you have strained?

[iacas]

56 minutes ago, Nail said:

@iacas is the flow stuff you are working on lately a new idea, I noticed it in the practice plan and I just hadnt noticed it on the site before, not that golfers haven't always done it. I noticed on your vids a shift of the hips to the right at the start of your takeaway, have you always done that?

Yeah, unless I've gotten away from it for some periods of time because I'm focusing on my arms or upper body so much or something.

This deserves a slightly longer answer, too: I've always had a little bit of a shift back and then forwad. Sometimes it's a bit more upper-body than I want, and the lower body stays very centered to slightly too far forward (usually when I'm putting in a lot of "arms" work), but this shift is something we've always "taught." For people who "sway" and who we give the "wall drill" to, sometimes they'll over-do it and eliminate ALL sway, which if they're a 12 looking to be a 7, we often don't even worry about. Bigger fish to fry. This stuff I'm emphasizing in the daily practice videos is a little new, and it's a little bit "not something a 12 handicapper has to worry about," and a little of "there's only so much you can do to teach the same old things." I want to do some new drills and things, too, even if they're typically reserved for 5 handicappers or better. Does that make sense? Anyone can gain from them, but the benefits are not HUGE for someone who is not "flowing" back. We're only talking about 1-2" remember.

43 minutes ago, mdl said:

Have you gone away from not trying to be steep at A5?

Nope. The day you replied to I was only working on the backswing. That shot would have been a little fade.

25 minutes ago, Tepi90 said:

Out of curiosity, which muscle you have strained?

I believe the transverse abdominis. Left side.

[Nail]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Yeah, unless I've gotten away from it for some periods of time because I'm focusing on my arms or upper body so much or something.

This deserves a slightly longer answer, too: I've always had a little bit of a shift back and then forwad. Sometimes it's a bit more upper-body than I want, and the lower body stays very centered to slightly too far forward (usually when I'm putting in a lot of "arms" work), but this shift is something we've always "taught." For people who "sway" and who we give the "wall drill" to, sometimes they'll over-do it and eliminate ALL sway, which if they're a 12 looking to be a 7, we often don't even worry about. Bigger fish to fry. This stuff I'm emphasizing in the daily practice videos is a little new, and it's a little bit "not something a 12 handicapper has to worry about," and a little of "there's only so much you can do to teach the same old things." I want to do some new drills and things, too, even if they're typically reserved for 5 handicappers or better. Does that make sense? Anyone can gain from them, but the benefits are not HUGE for someone who is not "flowing" back. We're only talking about 1-2" remember.

Thanks for the detailed answer, really helpful. A 15 handicap like me has bigger fish to fry than enough flow, its less sway I need to worry about😂

[Effington]

Out of curiosity, do you ever find time to play a round?  I imagine with teaching and running this site and having a family, time probably is tight.

[iacas]

9 hours ago, Effington said:

Out of curiosity, do you ever find time to play a round?  I imagine with teaching and running this site and having a family, time probably is tight.

Sometimes.

Not nearly as often as I'd like.

[iacas]

So, the arms do very little, and the swing is almost entirely rotational. The arms go out a little bit (feels like), while they lift and hinge a bit (to make the shaft feel vertical). And nothing else. The shaft gets to vertical (feel) and my elbow gets off my chest (both), and the rotation stops when the shaft is vertical (feel).

Soft right arm and hand and wrist.

For shorter irons, it's more of a "stay on the front foot" feeling.

[iacas]

On 12/31/2019 at 11:44 AM, DaveP043 said:

I read this in @iacas thread, and immediately thought of this.  Not just one, but TWO golf professionals

I'm still annoyed that we flipped the camera into high-speed mode for like six holes. 😛

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Right now my feelings are:

• Hands go "out" just a little bit.
• Hands actually keep the shaft on a plane like / (if the golf swing plane is \).
• Right shoulder stays relaxed.
• Hands don't take the club back past vertical (duh, it goes way past there).
• Flow right and TURN.

The end of my pre-shot routine I'm nailing down too.

1. Look at the target with two waggles and look at the ball.
2. Repeat 1.
3. Two more purposeful waggles at the ball.
4. One more. Very purposeful.
5. Go.

[iacas]

Some feelings that work. Just building a little checklist. I was mixing too many up the other day, and forgetting about the one that actually kinda worked.

• The main one might be that it feels like I just take my hands (and the clubhead) as HIGH up as possible. This helps stop me from getting either of them "around" me too much. I have to make sure I TURN to do this, but it also helps keep the shoulders on their proper inclination, as the left shoulder going down and back teeter-totters the right side UP.
• Soft right shoulder. No tension.
• Right elbow soft too.
• Rory bump and turn. Bump is better with a left knee bounce than a right knee bounce, but both are "okay."
• A bit of an early hinge to keep the shaft straight. Feels like it sometimes tips out \ a little, but ideally feels like it goes through the base of my neck in a DL mirror view.
• A little twist at the top, a little shorter, a little steeper… but honestly, if I'm looking at these things, I probably messed up something earlier that I'm overlooking.

So, oddly, I struggled with a 7I making half swings, a PW, an 8I, and a driver (half or full swings). Then I got my 5I out and set up a little station and remembered the first bullet point. Smashed six balls and left. 🙂 All felt easy, center contact, good flight, barely a draw.

[iacas]

A few quick notes:

• Arms have to feel like they're just kinda hanging there limp at setup. That's my cue to not "do anything" with them throughout the swing. When I "do nothing" with them, they just kinda get "flung" in the right direction.
• Shaft stays out, club goes up.
• Definitely helps to feel the flow back. I can sometimes start it with an upper body lean back, but I try to do it a bit more through the right hip. If I don't, I can get stuck left a little too much (which is not actually left, but more left than I should).
• Sometimes feels like a cut swing… that draws. Because the shoulders open up, but the clubhead falls back to the inside a little bit.
• Justin Thomas.

[ShaftFarmer]

On 4/5/2020 at 5:34 PM, iacas said:

For myself, a reminder of sorts:

I've been doing this drill a couple times a day since starting on my shallowing piece.

Loved that video!

[iacas]

Came up with an odd sort of drill for myself. I did it a little too fast and was just a little out of sequence, but these are among the first swings I recorded and they're still pretty decent. So I kinda like it.

Just a trial run though, and I think the idea is sound, but it has to be done smaller, shorter, smoother.

These are "okay."