Marijuana use and the golf game

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by ghalfaire

Amen to that!!

I figure you say Amen to that because this is a golf forum and not a weed forum.  To that i say save your Amen's for church.

[alo1984]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

There is alot of sucessful people who smoke herb, IE Michael Phelps.

HA!  Yeah he is a real class act outside of the pool.  What a winner!

[LBlack14]

Those who condemn it don't know the 1st thing about it.

[tmorg]

Actually plenty of people dont like it cuz it makes people annoying to be around and lazy, and dont see an overall need to do it once they have done it a few times

[mdl]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I got what your saying, everything is somewhat in a haze.  To be honest i think it kinda depends on the person, because for me it's only helped my focus, it slows my thought process down allowing me to focus shot by shot and not hole by hole.  Also like i said, if i hit a bad shot its whatever, i dont freak out and ruin the next couple holes because of it.

I've found this same thing.  Smoking a lot just turns things south, but just one or two puffs relaxes me, keeps me from over-swinging, and helps the whole forget the last shot and the next shot, control what you're doing right now thing.

[xxsoultonesxx]

I enjoy a smoke every so often, but I find that I don't play as well after smoking, but only due to a lower energy level. I like to feel on point when I'm on the course. I don't really drink much on the course anymore, either.

[ghalfaire]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I figure you say Amen to that because this is a golf forum and not a weed forum.  To that i say save your Amen's for church.

You're probably a lot younger than me but " Amen to that" means I agree with the statement I quoted.  It isn't a religious statement in this context.  But I suppose anyone under 40 might not know that depending upon what part of the country you come from.

As long as I'm at it.  For those of you that think taking a little puff now and again doesn't hurt anyone, you ought to visit a recovering drug addict or clinic.  Maybe take a look at the number of people killed by drug cartels along the Mexican border or speak to citizens that don't use but were robbed by addicts to get money to pay for drugs.  Maybe visit a parent that abused or killed their children while high on Meth.  Try visiting a family that lost someone in a traffic accident to a driver that was just a little high.  You're just wrong to believe taking a hit or a puff once in awhile doesn't harm anyone.  It does and I have lost more than one person in my life because of illegal drugs.  Anything that helps make money for the drug cartels and dealers does damage to your fellow citizens and Country.   Sorry for getting off topic a little but some of the comments on this thread really hit a nerve with me.

[mtsalmela80]

Originally Posted by bunkerputt

What in the name of all that is holy is this thread about?  How to be a pothead and still be excellent at the things you do in life?  Come on people.  Please develop some class.

Do you contribute or support the "anyone enjoying the drink tonight" thread?

[mtsalmela80]

Originally Posted by ghalfaire

You're probably a lot younger than me but " Amen to that" means I agree with the statement I quoted.  It isn't a religious statement in this context.  But I suppose anyone under 40 might not know that depending upon what part of the country you come from.

As long as I'm at it.  For those of you that think taking a little puff now and again doesn't hurt anyone, you ought to visit a recovering drug addict or clinic.  Maybe take a look at the number of people killed by drug cartels along the Mexican border or speak to citizens that don't use but were robbed by addicts to get money to pay for drugs.  Maybe visit a parent that abused or killed their children while high on Meth.  Try visiting a family that lost someone in a traffic accident to a driver that was just a little high.  You're just wrong to believe taking a hit or a puff once in awhile doesn't harm anyone.  It does and I have lost more than one person in my life because of illegal drugs.  Anything that helps make money for the drug cartels and dealers does damage to your fellow citizens and Country.   Sorry for getting off topic a little but some of the comments on this thread really hit a nerve with me.

Alcohol kills many many more times the amount of people that all illegal drugs kill per year.

[ghalfaire]

Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

Alcohol kills many many more times the amount of people that all illegal drugs kill per year.

You could be correct, but that doesn't minimize the damage done by illegal drugs.  They tried to make liquor illegal a long time ago (prohibition).  It didn't work and like illegal drugs the illegal liquor traffic was controlled by organized crime during that time.  To solve the problem, as politicians tend to do, they took the easy road and just made liquor legal.  So I don't know what the answer is for illegal drugs or liquor.  Probably education and you can make a case for legalizing drugs.  But as you point out that didn't seem to change the human toll in the case of liquor, but maybe it did stop a lot of the collateral crimes but taking big money out of the equation.  But even with alcohol addiction, it hurts a lot of people other than the addict.

[Texian]

Alcohol, weed, and other drugs are crutches for weak people. They make nothing better.

Have some balls and be yourself without getting altered by chemicals.

[Stretch]

Originally Posted by Texian

Alcohol, weed, and other drugs are crutches for weak people. They make nothing better.

You left out TV, religion and Stack & Tilt.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by Texian

Alcohol, weed, and other drugs are crutches for weak people. They make nothing better.

Have some balls and be yourself without getting altered by chemicals.

Agree, with reservations.  I was one of those '60's hippies.  I did enough to know what I'm talking about and there really isn't anything good about it.  It seemed like fun at the time, but even though some of the memories are good, that overall period in my life wasn't.  I wasted nearly 10 years of my life being wasted.  If I had it to do over again I'd skip the so-called (and grossly misnamed) mind enhancing substances.

That said, I still enjoy beer and wine (I'm not a self-righteous preacher), but only socially and rarely to excess (never to excess if I'm driving).

One big difference between drugs and alcohol which no argument can get around..... Alcohol is LEGAL and drugs are NOT.

[mtsalmela80]

Originally Posted by Fourputt

Agree, with reservations.  I was one of those '60's hippies.  I did enough to know what I'm talking about and there really isn't anything good about it.  It seemed like fun at the time, but even though some of the memories are good, that overall period in my life wasn't.  I wasted nearly 10 years of my life being wasted.  If I had it to do over again I'd skip the so-called (and grossly misnamed) mind enhancing substances.

That said, I still enjoy beer and wine (I'm not a self-righteous preacher), but only socially and rarely to excess (never to excess if I'm driving).

One big difference between drugs and alcohol which no argument can get around..... Alcohol is LEGAL and drugs are NOT.

Alcohol in excess is way more destructive than any illegal drug to excess. thats also a fact!

[JT SCRATCH]

Here is my take, with an example of where I am coming from:

Every year my buddies and I would take a golf trip somewhere south (for about 4 years) in the early spring.  These were the guys I played with on the regular.  It was like clockwork that when we got to whereever it was we were going that year, out came the weed.  And most of those guys didnt stop smoking the whole time we were away.  On the course, before the round, after the round, at nighttime, etc.  Those weekends were great before I was an adult and had responsibilites beyond myself.  I stopped playing with those guys mostly for that reason.  It seemed that smoking was their first priority and golf was second.  Not to mention the stuff is illegal.   Now i am not getting high and mighty heer, as i did my fair share while in college and shortly thereafter, but I just never got the whole getting high thing.  It seems to mean that most people now think that pot is legal and you can smoke up anywhere you want, but the truth is the stuff is illegal and will land you a citation at minimum and some jail time and fines max.  Comparing alcohol and marijuana is a terrible comparison because legally speaking one is legal, and one is not, period.  Bottom line if you smoke, so be it, but do in the privacy of your own space and dont think that its "acceptable" because "its only pot"

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

Alcohol in excess is way more destructive than any illegal drug to excess. thats also a fact!

That wouldn't be true if both were equally available.  You can't make a comparison between a legal and universally obtainable substance and an illegal substance which is only obtainable in a limited way.  There are a lot of people who would use drugs, and drive after using them to excess, if they weren't illegal.  Then you'd have to start a new highway death statistic separation... was he killed by a drunk or by a druggie?  Not that it would matter to the victim - dead is still dead.

As far as addictive destruction goes, meth, crack, smack, PCP, and many others are at least as destructive to the user as alcohol is.  Your assertion doesn't hold water.

[mtsalmela80]

Originally Posted by JT SCRATCH

Here is my take, with an example of where I am coming from:

Every year my buddies and I would take a golf trip somewhere south (for about 4 years) in the early spring.  These were the guys I played with on the regular.  It was like clockwork that when we got to whereever it was we were going that year, out came the weed.  And most of those guys didnt stop smoking the whole time we were away.  On the course, before the round, after the round, at nighttime, etc.  Those weekends were great before I was an adult and had responsibilites beyond myself.  I stopped playing with those guys mostly for that reason.  It seemed that smoking was their first priority and golf was second.  Not to mention the stuff is illegal.   Now i am not getting high and mighty heer, as i did my fair share while in college and shortly thereafter, but I just never got the whole getting high thing.  It seems to mean that most people now think that pot is legal and you can smoke up anywhere you want, but the truth is the stuff is illegal and will land you a citation at minimum and some jail time and fines max.  Comparing alcohol and marijuana is a terrible comparison because legally speaking one is legal, and one is not, period.  Bottom line if you smoke, so be it, but do in the privacy of your own space and dont think that its "acceptable" because "its only pot"

Pot is perfectly acceptable in my mind, and I don't even care for the drug. Its pure hypocrisy that its illegal when a way more destructive substance is legal. How many people have you ever known that woke up in jail not knowing how they got there because they smoked too many joints? lol

[JT SCRATCH]

Too bad the law does not revolve around "in your mind."   Alcohol may be more distructive, but its legal.  That is part of the problem with this country is that people dont follow the rules.  Rules/Laws are there for a reason, and regadless of whether or not you accept them, they are cut and dry, black and white.  Remember that golf is a game of honor, just like in life you should be honorable, and obey the law.