The Dan Plan - 10,000 Hours to Become a Pro Golfer (Dan McLaughlin)

[Pretzel]

Whatever you guys posted to the Facebook page is long gone by now. Most recent post to his page was on June 27th, about his birthday. Care to summarize it here for me?

[iacas]

Whatever you guys posted to the Facebook page is long gone by now. Most recent post to his page was on June 27th, about his birthday. Care to summarize it here for me?

There's a Dan Plan page or group. His personal page has little on it.

[Pretzel]

There's a Dan Plan page or group. His personal page has little on it.

I was talking about the dan plan page. I didn't see a group for it though.

[iacas]

I was talking about the dan plan page. I didn't see a group for it though.

https://www.facebook.com/TheDanPlanGolf

[RandallT]

Quote:

Originally Posted by narmno

[...] It went great and I shot a 38 on the front 9 and a 36 on the back. [One good round means nothing. You continue to use bad metrics to feed your delusions.] [...]

Actually he didn't even shoot a real round. The snippet above in non-bold is describing a "virtual" round he played on the range... strictly visualizing the course.

Here's the full Quote from Dan:

We went over how important visualization is and since I have a two-day tournament at Eastmo this coming weekend I decided to begin my new practice qwith a visualization exercise. It went great and I shot a 38 on the front 9 and a 36 on the back. I pictured every single hole and shot, went through my pre-shot routine and executed.  I also spent time between shots just as I would out there and the entire round actually took me a couple of hours despite just making 74 shots.  It was great and by the 4th “hole” I could really see and feel what it was going to be like this weekend.

So if you think one round means nothing, how about one visualized round on the range? Is there something that is less than nothing?

[newtogolf]

Actually he didn't even shoot a real round. The snippet above in non-bold is describing a "virtual" round he played on the range... strictly visualizing the course.

Here's the full Quote from Dan:

So if you think one round means nothing, how about one visualized round on the range? Is there something that is less than nothing?

A visualized round to go with a visualized paycheck he'll never earn on the PGA Tour

[Pretzel]

[URL=https://www.facebook.com/TheDanPlanGolf]https://www.facebook.com/TheDanPlanGolf[/URL]

Ah, I thought that was just a regular page. Regardless, that's the place I was talking about where he must've deleted the comments mentioned above from, because the most recent available to view were people wishing him a happy birthday on the 27th.

[iacas]

Ah, I thought that was just a regular page. Regardless, that's the place I was talking about where he must've deleted the comments mentioned above from, because the most recent available to view were people wishing him a happy birthday on the 27th.

That page was updated yesterday.

[Pretzel]

That page was updated yesterday.

I think you may be confused. I was referring to the comments other members said they posted to the page. I wasn't talking about any of the posts Dan himself made on the page. Sorry about that.

[Lihu]

I think you may be confused. I was referring to the comments other members said they posted to the page. I wasn't talking about any of the posts Dan himself made on the page. Sorry about that.

Dan made a comment to Dan.

I thought it was definitely to the point.

GHIN's first name is Dan.

[Pretzel]

Dan made a comment to Dan. I thought it was definitely to the point. GHIN's first name is Dan.

I'm not sure where you saw this on the page, but looking on my mobile phone I can't find it for the life of me. EDIT: Stupid me, found it. I looked just about everywhere except where it was located.

[GHIN0011458]

Just read it. . . "Defending" him? Where is this site? :-D

I promise on here somewhere I say I hope he does well and I support him lol. Tides are changing now

[18rounds]

This thread is confusing to me. I can not for the life if me figure out why people would be so negative about the "10,000 hour experiment". I certainly have not read everything that Dan has written but I have enjoyed watching from a distance. He found a way to play a lot of golf and through his blogging, speaking and sponsors he has found a way to support his golf. Where is the problem here?

[nevets88]

It's superficial.

[newtogolf]

This thread is confusing to me. I can not for the life if me figure out why people would be so negative about the "10,000 hour experiment".

I certainly have not read everything that Dan has written but I have enjoyed watching from a distance. He found a way to play a lot of golf and through his blogging, speaking and sponsors he has found a way to support his golf. Where is the problem here?

I don't think anyone is actually negative towards the experiment it's the individual and process(es)  that individual has taken to execute the experiment.  Given how he's conducted the experiment, the results will prove little to nothing and it will equate to little more than some guy bilking others out of money and time so he could not work and play golf.

[nevets88]

This thread is confusing to me. I can not for the life if me figure out why people would be so negative about the "10,000 hour experiment".

I certainly have not read everything that Dan has written but I have enjoyed watching from a distance. He found a way to play a lot of golf and through his blogging, speaking and sponsors he has found a way to support his golf. Where is the problem here?

That's not his "mission statement" in his blog. It doesn't read the purpose of this endeavor is for you Joe Q Public to support my full time golf career and while you read about it. It's about using deliberate practice to try and get on the PGA tour. Everyone reads past the first part and it's become more a vicarious thrill for onlookers, nothing to do with deliberate practice. There's exponentially more material on deliberate practice in this site than his. And some of his deliberate practice methods, putting only for months on end, is questionable.

[Lihu]

This thread is confusing to me. I can not for the life if me figure out why people would be so negative about the "10,000 hour experiment". I certainly have not read everything that Dan has written but I have enjoyed watching from a distance. He found a way to play a lot of golf and through his blogging, speaking and sponsors he has found a way to support his golf. Where is the problem here?

First I would like to welcome you to TST. There are always going to be positive and negative comments on any blog. We're voicing our opinions. As for Dan, he stated that he will make it to the PGA tour with just 10,000 hours of training. Opinions ranged from "way to go" all the way down to "not a chance you can do it". Many of the people with the "way to go" answers in the beginning are now changing to "probaly not" to "no way you can do it" I think it's bad for REAL aspiring pros that he marketed his way into getting donations from many supporters, because it seriously detracts from their their good golfing skills and possible sponsorships. The average person knows nothing about golf, and for him to say he can make the most prestigious tour with only 10,000 hours is saying that all these talented golfers have no extra skills to separate them from anyone else. My feeling is that he has milked this beyond what is reasonable, and will make it more difficult for many truly talented golfers from getting sponsors outside of the golfing world.

[RandallT]

This thread is confusing to me. I can not for the life if me figure out why people would be so negative about the "10,000 hour experiment". I certainly have not read everything that Dan has written but I have enjoyed watching from a distance. He found a way to play a lot of golf and through his blogging, speaking and sponsors he has found a way to support his golf. Where is the problem here?

Hmmmm, so you've read this thread but you haven't really read much of what Dan has written (except from a distance), and you can't for the life of you see a reason for negativity. Id suggest reading his blog more and assess for yourself if his goal is reasonable, if it will be reached, if he is going about his goal in an effective manner, if he is conveying to us readers what he's discovering about deliberate practice. Then let us know if you see reason for positivity. I think there was hope and optimism from many at the beginning. The pessimists at the start are looking wiser however. Over time, the items I listed above have sunk in and things have tended toward negativity. Can you honestly say the project is going positively? Are you learning much from it?