Kaymer's Turn to Poke Tiger

[Clambake]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/golf/6712/6/exclusive-%E2%80%93-kaymer-%E2%80%98nobody%E2%80%99s-scared-tiger-woods-anymore%E2%80%99

Martin Kaymer is now the latest player to poke at Tiger's capability now, saying that the players just aren't scared of him anymore.    Probably true and speaks what most players are thinking.

Then again, watching Kaymer at Augusta I doubt anyone was feeling too frightened by him either......

[jamo]

I don't think there are a whole lot of guys out there afraid of Martin either. But I guess when the question is asked, you give an answer.

Originally Posted by Clambake

Then again, watching Kaymer at Augusta I doubt anyone was feeling too frightened by him either......

Yeah that was the first thing that came to my mind.

[nuck81]

Maybe they should have told Kaymer how many strokes Tiger was ahead of him after day 2 at Augusta

[Zwick]

Why should they be scared? Tiger hasnt won for more than a year. It's just absurd, that the journalists are still asking those questions...

But I want to see what they say/do as soon as he gets his first W.

And I think this whole fear factor is blown out of proportion. He hasn't won everything before, and he never will.

[newtogolf]

You can't call yourself a professional and admittedly fear someone in the press, so it's a stupid question.  Do they respect Tigers game, at this point maybe or maybe not, but they did when he was #1 and winning alot more.

Golf is played as an individual against a course, there's nothing Tiger can do to them that would warrant fear.  If they were fighting MMA in a cage, maybe, but fear in golf, c'mon.

[jshots]

Its only a matter of time... I'm sure that there are plenty that still fear Tiger and i'm confident he will start playing well again and everyone will fear him.

Did you see the front nine on sunday? Yeah its only a matter of time until he can take it a full 18 holes.

[clubchamp]

The reporters still asking the questions about Tiger are the ones that annoy me. It's not really news that Tiger has lost his aura and no one is constantly looking for his name anymore. Tiger is an exceptional one in a life time talent but his life melt down showed everyone that he is human. Bottom line is Tiger will win again but he will never be what he was in the previous years and everyone knows it. I also find it funny that they all aren't "scared" of him now but 5 years ago it would have been lights out for any challenger... and I'm not even a fan of Tiger

[franky21]

Kaymer is saying that no one fears Tiger anymore but they must be thinking about him. For the players to still talk about the intimidation factor means they are still thinking about him. He didn't make the cut so instead of talking about the guy that was 4 strokes off of the winner let's figure out a way to make a cut or at least get a top 25. I don't understand what this whole being scared of Tiger thing is about. The bottom line is that Tiger wins,the guys that were facing him didn't choke cause they were scared it was because they couldn't perform under pressure. Poulter said Tiger wouldn't get a top 5 finish, but i like when the guys talk because i think that is making Tiger work harder.But he is entitled to say whatever he wants, he is the #1 player in the world.

[henniebogan1966]

Yep, Kaymer has been on a real hot streak since then hasn't he? I love all the big talk not backed up by results from these guys. I just wish we could find someone, anyone, who can actually shut their pie-holes and just start winning big tournaments.

[newtogolf]

[henniebogan1966]

Kaymer at The Masters. MC

Kaymer at Quail Hollow Nearly dead last.

[Zeph]

Kaymer on the OWGR. 2nd. What is your point?

[henniebogan1966]

Originally Posted by Zeph

Kaymer on the OWGR. 2nd. What is your point?

My point would be he's not the world #2 based on his most recent play. In fact, I'd say that since ascending to # 1, he's actually played worse than prior to.  Same thing seemingly happened to Westwood. Once he got there, played worse. Donald was poised to take the top spot, then fell back. Not something we're used to seeing from the top player in the world is it? The game is much more level than it used to be and I'm not sure there is a #1 right now.

[Zeph]

That's unfair because Tiger has been the #1 the last decade, and nobody is even close to his level of consistency. Take away Tiger from the last 15 years and a bunch of guys would have had the chance at the top spot.

Not really unheard of for a top player to crumble under pressure. But still, with Tiger as reference point, everyone will look like amateurs. Phil had the chance at the top spot lots of times, but never got it done. And he's the guy who's been closest to Tiger's results in his era.

[henniebogan1966]

Originally Posted by Zeph

That's unfair because Tiger has been the #1 the last decade, and nobody is even close to his level of consistency. Take away Tiger from the last 15 years and a bunch of guys would have had the chance at the top spot.

Not really unheard of for a top player to crumble under pressure. But still, with Tiger as reference point, everyone will look like amateurs. Phil had the chance at the top spot lots of times, but never got it done. And he's the guy who's been closest to Tiger's results in his era.

It may not be fair, but it is what it is. Tiger set the bar so high that all are failing by comparison. For the forseeable future there is no player who seems poised to be what Tiger has been to the game. Meaning that no one currently playing is going to win 14 majors and 71 tournaments on The PGA Tour.  Lots of young guns out there, but no one with the moxy that Tiger had when he came on tour.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by henniebogan1966

Yep, Kaymer has been on a real hot streak since then hasn't he? I love all the big talk not backed up by results from these guys. I just wish we could find someone, anyone, who can actually shut their pie-holes and just start winning big tournaments.

Not all the top guys have been flapping their gums, but someone sure does need to step up. When Tiger has played as crappy as he has since his car accident, and he's still ranked in the top 10, that says a lot about the vanillia result of the other guys. I haven't heard anything but respectful comments (wrt Tiger's golf game) from Donald, Mickelson, Stricker, Johnson, Kuchar, Watney, Furyk, Casey, etc. Basically, there are a still few top guys smart enough to know they should focus on their own games.

[henniebogan1966]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Not all the top guys have been flapping their gums, but someone sure does need to step up. When Tiger has played as crappy as he has since his car accident, and he's still ranked in the top 10, that says a lot about the vanillia result of the other guys. I haven't heard anything but respectful comments (wrt Tiger's golf game) from Donald, Mickelson, Stricker, Johnson, Kuchar, Watney, Furyk, Casey, etc. Basically, there are a still few top guys smart enough to know they should focus on their own games.

Agreed and those guys tend to play more consistently, especially in the bigger events, than do those who flap their gums.  Those guys understand how difficult it is to stay focused in all events but more importantly in the bigger events like WGC's and majors. They put more time into their own games and preparation than they do worrying about what to say about Tiger. Case in point is Ian Poulter. All flash and no cash, so to speak.

[mp33]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

You can't call yourself a professional and admittedly fear someone in the press, so it's a stupid question.  Do they respect Tigers game, at this point maybe or maybe not, but they did when he was #1 and winning alot more.

Golf is played as an individual against a course, there's nothing Tiger can do to them that would warrant fear.  If they were fighting MMA in a cage, maybe, but fear in golf, c'mon.

I agree totally. "fear" is not a factor. I just wish they would stop asking the question.  I guy wins his first tournament and the first thing they do is ask him about Tiger