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Originally Posted by deronsizemore

Wouldn't surprise me if Stevie comes out and releases some information that Tiger may not want out. Of course, Tiger could have paid him to keep quite too.

I don't think they're over paid. Sure a few caddies who are lucky enough to carry the bag for big name players make a lot, but what about the guy who is carrying the bag of the guy who's struggling to make cuts?

Just because there's a few making a ton doesn't mean they are all overpaid.



I just don't think there are only a select few in the world who could be a good caddie.  The skills needed are not that hard to come by which should be reflected in what they earn.  I don't know what a caddie should earn--but if I was to guess I'd say all expenses paid and 40,000 a year.  The idea of 10% of a players winnings just sounds crazy to me.


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Originally Posted by mck

I just don't think there are only a select few in the world who could be a good caddie.  The skills needed are not that hard to come by which should be reflected in what they earn.  I don't know what a caddie should earn--but if I was to guess I'd say all expenses paid and 40,000 a year.  The idea of 10% of a players winnings just sounds crazy to me.


I don't think you've ever caddied in a top-tier event or for a top-tier player.

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Here is a good article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/5323652/Steve-Williams-pays-price-for-speaking-out

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I don't care if he or Tiger got separated or not.  I am just happy not to see both unlikable guys on TV screen at same time.

Only worry is that Stevie may wear Burbury like A. Scott does.  :)

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It was a good article and expanded further on what I'd already read.  It will be interesting to see who replaces Williams as it's a great opportunity for someone, but comes with a lot of risk.

Originally Posted by Kieran123

Here is a good article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/5323652/Steve-Williams-pays-price-for-speaking-out



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The article reminds me of when Fluff Cowan was let go. Tiger like most players want their caddies to do their job and remain out of sight. They get paid very well for doing just this. Fluff became too much of a celebrity and was canned and it looks like Williams forgot what his job was: to be Tiger's caddy and not draw attention to himself. I don't think Steve said anything wrong except his idiotic statement about Mickelson.

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Maybe this will signal a change to Tiger's personality.  I may be in the minority, but I don't recall Tiger being as curt pre-Stevie, but I may be wrong.


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Haha wow. The bias in this article is incredible!

Originally Posted by Kieran123

Here is a good article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/5323652/Steve-Williams-pays-price-for-speaking-out



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Originally Posted by LfSideStrngSide

Haha wow. The bias in this article is incredible!


Read the first word of that article.

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If one thought Stevie was gonna take the high road....think again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/14237031.stm

If Tiger knocked the bridge down, Stevie just went out and burned the remains, then spat on it for good measure.


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Originally Posted by ElWagonne

If one thought Stevie was gonna take the high road....think again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/14237031.stm

If Tiger knocked the bridge down, Stevie just went out and burned the remains, then spat on it for good measure.


haha! I like Stevie Williams - tells it how it is.

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I knew it was an opinion

Originally Posted by Kieran123

Read the first word of that article.



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Originally Posted by mck

I just don't think there are only a select few in the world who could be a good caddie.  The skills needed are not that hard to come by which should be reflected in what they earn.  I don't know what a caddie should earn--but if I was to guess I'd say all expenses paid and 40,000 a year.  The idea of 10% of a players winnings just sounds crazy to me.


Quoted from the article Kieran123 posted...


"After last year's US Open, Woods told NBC: "I was telling Stevie we made three mental mistakes today and the only thing it cost us was the chance to win the US Open."

Do you think you're capable of handling this kind of pressure?  Caddies on the PGA Tour aren't just out there going through the motions.  They are providing their employer with critical information to win.  The stakes are VERY high and it isn't as trivial as you have made it seem.  On top of that, Tiger's profile as a golfer during his run from 1999+ till now is beyond what you can imagine and to caddie in that environment isn't some simple. Sure the money helps which is why I may not fully agree with Stevie's comments but I surely respect him (and others on the PGA Tour) as a caddie.

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Here's another opinion article

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/6790119/rick-reilly-tiger-woods-new-world

Although most of the article is ugh...there are some interesting points:

1. Stevie not making a pay cheque in the last 2 years while Tiger rebuilds everything

2. And that Tiger was pissed that Stevie went and caddied for Adam Scott ( I thought he got permission? )

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Originally Posted by Kieran123

Here's another opinion article

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/6790119/rick-reilly-tiger-woods-new-world

Although most of the article is ugh...there are some interesting points:

1. Stevie not making a pay cheque in the last 2 years while Tiger rebuilds everything

2. And that Tiger was pissed that Stevie went and caddied for Adam Scott ( I thought he got permission? )

Typical Rick Reilly fashion,  Spewing about things he probably has no idea or clues about.


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Originally Posted by iacas

Pretty sure you mean Bryon Bell. And yeah, Tiger's going to choose some random unknown caddie. What's he going to do, have tryouts? C'mon.



My point was there is a lot of good caddies that people don't know about and tiger may take one of them. I'm not saying pull some guy off a nationwide bag and give him a try out. I just don't think Tiger has as many options as most believe and will have to pay a ton to draw a big name away from a good player.

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Originally Posted by Callahan14

Typical Rick Reilly fashion,  Spewing about things he probably has no idea or clues about.

He's annoyed that the news appeared in this forum days before he even got a whisper

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