Masters: Whose Shot was Better from the Pine Straw? Bubba or Phil

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by jamo

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Tiger fanboys sticking up for Phil? Has the world gone mad?

Phil two putted after his shot and made a birdie. Bubba two putted and made a par. Worst case scenario Bubba doesn't hit the green and has a chance to get up and down for par. Miss the par putt and the playoff goes an extra hole. Bubba had nothing to lose and he hits shots like that routinely every round, but like Phil he hit it during an exciting and significant moment, just maybe slightly more exciting and significant due to the playoff.

Bubba had something to lose. It was far from a forgone conclusion that Louis was going to hit so (relatively) poor of a chip.

Worst case Bubba's left with the same up and down attempt as Louis. Bubba's been pushing the course boundaries since forever (according to Tiger who used to routinely play practice rounds with Bubba) and Phil has a long list of great shots on his resume. They're great shotmakers. Personally I think his pitch on that par 5 (#15 or 13?) on Saturday was more gutsy.

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Worst case Bubba's left with the same up and down attempt as Louis. Bubba's been pushing the course boundaries since forever (according to Tiger who used to routinely play practice rounds with Bubba) and Phil has a long list of great shots on his resume. They're great shotmakers. Personally I think his pitch on that par 5 (#15 or 13?) on Saturday was more gutsy.

Bubba was in the woods. Worst case he hits a tree & the ball caroms deeper into the woods & he loses The Masters.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Worst case Bubba's left with the same up and down attempt as Louis. Bubba's been pushing the course boundaries since forever (according to Tiger who used to routinely play practice rounds with Bubba) and Phil has a long list of great shots on his resume. They're great shotmakers. Personally I think his pitch on that par 5 (#15 or 13?) on Saturday was more gutsy.

Bubba was in the woods. Worst case he hits a tree & the ball caroms deeper into the woods & he loses The Masters.

Pretty sure you know what I mean. Phil was close enough to larger trees that worst case he hits the ball directly off the trunk so it bounces back off both him and his equipment. Or maybe it hits him right in the eye while he breaks an iron shaft which then pierces his jugular. OMG - Phil might have pulled off the riskiest maneuver in the history of sporting events.

Since we're picking nits, your signature is wrong. Clearly not every hole ends with a putt.

[goodatgolf]

Bubba - his's was for the win and into the dark.

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Pretty sure you know what I mean. Phil was close enough to larger trees that worst case he hits the ball directly off the trunk so it bounces back off both him and his equipment. Or maybe it hits him right in the eye while he breaks an iron shaft which then pierces his jugular. OMG - Phil might have pulled off the riskiest maneuver in the history of sporting events.

Since we're picking nits, your signature is wrong. Clearly not every hole ends with a putt.

Enough of them do to warrant practicing short putts consistently. But since you want to go there, I'll change it to be technically correct.

I don't see it as a nit-pick. Phil had two trees in front of him with a pretty large gap - the odds of hitting one of them were slim....he even said as much. Bubba was in the woods. Big difference.

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by The_Pharaoh

OK, we get your point. You think Bubba's shot was better. Now stop trying to force YOUR opinion on others. We don't give a frog's fat arse what you think.

Sure you don't need to go and have  alie down? You still seem a little upset that some here doubt your ability to walk onto Augusta and comfortably shoot a score better than 10% of the Masters field.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Pretty sure you know what I mean. Phil was close enough to larger trees that worst case he hits the ball directly off the trunk so it bounces back off both him and his equipment. Or maybe it hits him right in the eye while he breaks an iron shaft which then pierces his jugular. OMG - Phil might have pulled off the riskiest maneuver in the history of sporting events.

Since we're picking nits, your signature is wrong. Clearly not every hole ends with a putt.

Enough of them do to warrant practicing short putts consistently. But since you want to go there, I'll change it to be technically correct.

I don't see it as a nit-pick. Phil had two trees in front of him with a pretty large gap - the odds of hitting one of them were slim....he even said as much. Bubba was in the woods. Big difference.

They were both in the woods and from the video on page one it looks to me like Bubba's margin of error is very similar to Phil's. To me there is not a big difference.

[shalor]

Never mind who hit the better shot , the real question we should be asking is how did Bubba's wild drive into deep woods end up in such a lovely lie ?  Bear in mind those first on the scene were " patrons " almost certainly 100% wanting a US win and no cameras or officials at that point. The Yanks will do anything to get the right result and I remain deeply suspicious.

Never mind who shot JFK - who helped Bubba ?

[Motley01]

Originally Posted by shalor

Never mind who hit the better shot , the real question we should be asking is how did Bubba's wild drive into deep woods end up in such a lovely lie ?  Bear in mind those first on the scene were " patrons " almost certainly 100% wanting a US win and no cameras or officials at that point. The Yanks will do anything to get the right result and I remain deeply suspicious.

Never mind who shot JFK - who helped Bubba ?

Huh? A lovely lie? It was on hardpan where the patrons walk, so it wasn't gonna be on the pine straw there anyways.

Oh boy, trying to start conspiracy theories in a golf tournament. Inredible what some people will think.

btw, you an Oostie fan?

[shalor]

It was a lovely lie compared to what was all around which was simply unplayable. I believe Peter Alliss voiced some scepticism. I am not so much a Ooosthuizen fan as a fan of fair play , more than can be said for many of our American friends - remember the war on the shore and the treatment Monty used to get.

[Old1964]

Gotta go with the Bubba.

And, my friend heard from a friend's neighbor's brother-in-law that his sister knew the dude who lives next to the guy who teed Bubba's ball up for him on the hardpan so an American could win. All he would say is that the guy worked for the government.

Just sayin'.

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

They were both in the woods and from the video on page one it looks to me like Bubba's margin of error is very similar to Phil's. To me there is not a big difference.

You from the city or something? Two trees does not constitute woods.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

They were both in the woods and from the video on page one it looks to me like Bubba's margin of error is very similar to Phil's. To me there is not a big difference.

You from the city or something? Two trees does not constitute woods.

I'm a lifelong hacker and would never call having a clean lie and unobstructed swing being in the woods, so perhaps I actually thing neither player was "in the woods". One guy was stymied and one had tree trouble on his followthrough. Maybe they were both equally routine and mundane or awesome and exciting shots depending on who you pull for.

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by mchepp

Absolutely agree. Forget trees on Phil's shot, just consider the distance and that he had to clear the ravine. Bubba's was with a 52 degree wedge. Yes it had to hook but that seems to be Bubba's specialty.

Since when was Rae's Creek a "ravine"?

Phil's shot was a stock six iron. No obstructions. A clear shot.

Very dramatic and a great shot, but....

P.S to a mod - Can we please change the "who's" to "whose" in the thread title?

[Shorty]

This is Rae's Creek.

This is a ravine.

[camper6]

Bubba's shot was to win the Masters.

That trumps any other shot.

[MSchott]

Originally Posted by camper6

Bubba's shot was to win the Masters.

That trumps any other shot.

It wasn't to win the Masters. If Louie gets up and down they go to another hole. Remember, Bubba 2 putted for par and Oosthuizen bogied.

[bunkerputt]

They both sounded quite pounded.