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If you could go to anybody for lessons (price is not an issue) who would you want to go to? You can pick someone to work on your full swing and another to work on your short game. For me I'd go to Butch Harmon. I might go to Dave Stockton or Pelz for putting/short game but Butch would definitely be my #1 for my swing. How about you guys?

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Mike Bennett and Andy Plummer for the full swing.

Stan Utley matches my putting style.

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Kevin Snell for the full swing and Butch Harmon for wedges and putting (idk - just guesses).

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I'd love to have a lesson with Brian Manzella and his TrackMan.  Find out what all my numbers are and use them to track my progress.

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Not to come off as a suck-up, but I think I'd really enjoy a live session with Mike McLoughlin.

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Not to come off as a suck-up, but I think I'd really enjoy a live session with Mike McLoughlin.

I did that, strongly recommend it. Mike is awesome. Planning on going up to Erie this summer for a lesson from Erik. For nostalgia, if I had money to burn, I'd get lessons from Mac O' Grady, Chuck Cook, Ben Doyle, and Lynn Blake.

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Full Swing: Lynn Blake / Pete Cowen

Short Game: Dave Pelz(?)

Putting: Dave Stockton

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Originally Posted by uttexas

I did that, strongly recommend it. Mike is awesome. Planning on going up to Erie this summer for a lesson from Erik.

For nostalgia, if I had money to burn, I'd get lessons from Mac O' Grady, Chuck Cook, Ben Doyle, and Lynn Blake.


Good list. It's too bad Ben's done teaching and is just taking care of himself and his wife these days.

Dave and I will probably be in Texas in early summer doing some accrediting of a few people. Might be easier to hook up with us then.

My list would have included three of the four same people. And if I was only taking ONE lesson I'd include just about everyone - Jim Hardy, Jim McLean, Haney, Harmon, Leadbetter, etc. But only if I only had to take one lesson. :-)

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Stan Utley for a short game lesson

I like his basic, easy to understand approach

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I just stumbled upon this thread as I was watching some Lynn Blake videos tonight and did a search on here to see what threads were talking about him... So I thought I'd chime in.

Lynn Blakes does a very good job of using physics, geometry and human anatomy to help understand the golf swing.  He was trained by Homer Kelly - the author of The Golf Machine (TGM).  For golf nerds like myself, it is very interesting.  And helps me accept the instruction as being valid - and thus fuels my practice sessions to continue mastering those moves that the TGM guys speak.

I'll also add that MVMAC - Mike McLoughlin knows a thing or two about the golf swing. I agree he is an awesome resource and a big reason why I love this site.  He has helped me tremendously with my own swing in a short amount of time via Evolvr and a few hands on sessions.

Mike also told me about Dana Dahlquist in Long Beach.  I haven't gone to Dana for instruction, but watched many of his videos... He has some solid instructional video tidbits on Youtube, but you kind of have to hunt for them.

So to answer the OP's question... I'd go see Mike or Dana as both bring the TGM concepts into their instruction which I find great... And both are located here in Socal.  If I was in Georgia, I'd definitely try and get a lesson from Lynn Blake.

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Originally Posted by TyWebbb

Is Harvey Penick still alive?

Did you not see Ben Crenshaw at the Masters in 1995?

I'm assuming you are too young to have done so.

You missed one of the most tragically moving and thrilling moments in sport.

Penick would be  a great choice, were he alive.

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My vote would be to have a series of lessons (Ten 3-hour lessons in 14 days) with Mark Crossfield.

He seems really chill, and I know that I would learn a lot from him as I have already made so many improvements in my game just from watching his videos.

That won't happen, though (unless I win the lottery).

I would seriously like to drive over to Erie, PA and have a 3-hour lesson from Erik Barzeski this winter in his indoor facility.  I could drive there in 2.5-ish hours.  Is that a possibility, Erik?


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