My Swing (mchepp)

[mchepp]

Thanks for the suggestion Mike. I will start working on that.

[mchepp]

Here is some video from my last range session. I start with 3/4 swings then swing about 60% then move to full speed. I am working on @mvmac suggestions of flattening the shaft between A4 and A5.

Some stills

This is a comparison of the 3/4 swing versus an older swing

The 60% swing (pretty close to the 3/4 swing)

The full swing versus the 3/4 swing (Not bad, getting very close)

[RFKFREAK]

  mchepp said:

Here is some video from my last range session. I start with 3/4 swings then swing about 60% then move to full speed. I am working on @mvmac suggestions of flattening the shaft between A4 and A5. Some stills This is a comparison of the 3/4 swing versus an older swing [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/92889/] [/URL] The 60% swing (pretty close to the 3/4 swing) [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/92890/] [/URL] The full swing versus the 3/4 swing (Not bad, getting very close) [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/92891/] [/URL]

Wow, this is pretty cool. I have a few questions that I hope you don't mind answering. 1) What software do you use to be able to watch the video in slow motion and be able to take still shots and draw lines? 2) Where can I get more information about the A1, A2, etc. positions? 3) What device do you use to record yourself? How many fps? Thanks!

[saevel25]

  RFKFREAK said:

Wow, this is pretty cool. I have a few questions that I hope you don't mind answering.

1) What software do you use to be able to watch the video in slow motion and be able to take still shots and draw lines?

2) Where can I get more information about the A1, A2, etc. positions?

3) What device do you use to record yourself? How many fps?

Thanks!

1) I have a Casio that does 120 fps and 240 fps. For Windows 7 users and I thin Vista, any media player + Snipping Tool (Built in with windows). VLC media player has a capture screen shot. Quicktime might as well. Though I like quick time for clipping videos. Though you'll need to buy quick time to get the good features. I think 60 fps is the minimum required for adequate viewing of the golf swing. I think there are a few other free golf swing softwares out there as well.

2) http://thesandtrap.com/a/big-list-of-golf-terminology

[iacas]

  RFKFREAK said:

1) What software do you use to be able to watch the video in slow motion and be able to take still shots and draw lines?

Kinda written down the middle of the screenshots:

A N A L Y Z R G O L F . C O M

I know the creator and developer. He's a good guy. I hear 2.0 is coming along swimmingly.

[RFKFREAK]

  iacas said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFKFREAK

1) What software do you use to be able to watch the video in slow motion and be able to take still shots and draw lines?

Kinda written down the middle of the screenshots:

A N A L Y Z R G O L F . C O M

I know the creator and developer. He's a good guy. I hear 2.0 is coming along swimmingly.

I really should consider not posting around my bedtime or in the morning when I wake up since by brain is functioning during those times.

[mchepp]

This camera is the Casio FC-100. Mine has been beat to hell. Dropped a couple of times, blew over in the wind once on the tri-pod and therefore it malfunctions. So I am looking for an upgrade. I would like to get the FH-25 in the Casio line, but not sure if I want to spend that much on a camera that needs to be so rugged. I might slip back to the FH-20 in order to get a better price.

The FC-100 shoots at 210fps. The drawback is I cannot set manual exposure so in the full swings you can see that the head gets blurry. I would recommend not skimping as I did originally and getting one that has manual exposure.

As Erik mentioned analyzer is really good. You need a Mac but like a Mac it is easy to use and understand. I used to use V1 but it was confusing didn't work well on Mac at all. I am interested to see what 2.0 holds for us.

[RFKFREAK]

  mchepp said:

This camera is the Casio FC-100. Mine has been beat to hell. Dropped a couple of times, blew over in the wind once on the tri-pod and therefore it malfunctions. So I am looking for an upgrade. I would like to get the FH-25 in the Casio line, but not sure if I want to spend that much on a camera that needs to be so rugged. I might slip back to the FH-20 in order to get a better price. The FC-100 shoots at 210fps. The drawback is I cannot set manual exposure so in the full swings you can see that the head gets blurry. I would recommend not skimping as I did originally and getting one that has manual exposure. As Erik mentioned analyzer is really good. You need a Mac but like a Mac it is easy to use and understand. I used to use V1 but it was confusing didn't work well on Mac at all. I am interested to see what 2.0 holds for us.

Wow, looks like the Casio FH-20 runs about $1,000. Def out of my price range.

[iacas]

  mchepp said:

Here is some video from my last range session. I start with 3/4 swings then swing about 60% then move to full speed. I am working on @mvmac suggestions of flattening the shaft between A4 and A5.

The full swing versus the 3/4 swing (Not bad, getting very close)

It was the right thing at the time, but now please stop as you're "there" already and have possibly gone too far. Left arm shifting out slightly is fine, but the left picture is WAY better than the right picture above.

@david_wedzik and I filmed a video for you today and it should demonstrate a few things for you.

To others: note that this is particular to what @mchepp is doing right now, and what he needs to work on next. This is individualized information, not for mass consumption or "use" in your own swing, or your buddy's swing, etc.

Basically, the top left image is causing the other issues (the other three panels):

Why?

We know - from our own studies as well as what we've confirmed from various biomechanists, etc. - once a club is "going" in a certain direction at about A5, it's going to keep going in that direction. You're now laying the shaft down from 4 to 5, but at 5 it has to kick out or else you'd miss the golf ball.

Illustrated (somewhat):

You:

How others manage to "do it" - going from across the line and/or steep to laying the shaft down "through" A5.

You can't (or shouldn't want to) lay the shaft down more because you're already fine. You're on plane right now - to shallow it out further means to make yet another compensation (kicking the club HARD around the corner) in order to hit the golf ball.

Grant doesn't do it very much:

Consequently he looks normal in the finish:

Your hands pull in HARD because otherwise you're going to shank, miss the golf ball to the outside, etc. You can't "long arc" it from there. You'd have to somehow quickly send your hands out when you're already in the process of "burying the handle."

Here's the video:

You can like this just fine, and if you want to swing like this, that's okay too, but you're going to have to be content to hit your 7-iron 145 yards or so, and your finish will continue to look bad unless you add in some other compensation (tipping your head back to help keep the path OUTward as long as possible, etc.).

What I'd do from here? It's in the video, but basically, get to 4, and then rip down as you go forward and long arc it and hit your finish. Stop worrying about 3 to 4 to 5. Your left arm is fine, the shaft is fine, just start ripping the ball, feeling good extension on the finish. It'll get rid of the pulls, cuts, and the "cramped" look you've got at A7 through 9. JUMP like a motherbleeper. EXTEND. SPEED.

TL;DR version: You're now too shallow at A5, so the clubhead (sweetspot) has to kick out HARD, which leads to the cramped look at A7-A9. Move on to focusing on speed and extension.

[mvmac]

  iacas said:

What I'd do from here? It's in the video, but basically, get to 4, and then rip down as you go forward and long arc it and hit your finish. Stop worrying about 3 to 4 to 5. Your left arm is fine, the shaft is fine, just start ripping the ball, feeling good extension on the finish. It'll get rid of the pulls, cuts, and the "cramped" look you've got at A7 through 9. JUMP like a motherbleeper. EXTEND. SPEED.

@mchepp , since you like Mac

Like this

[mchepp]

Thank you @iacas and @david_wedzik for the great post. Extension has been my achilleas heel and I understand your message. I will get to working on it.

[mchepp]

Progress!

[mchepp]

Swinging at 75 percent trying to work on the extension piece.

[iacas]

  mchepp said:

Swinging at 75 percent trying to work on the extension piece.

Looking much gooder! :-)

[mchepp]

Still working on the extension pieces. Developed a wicked pull hook so it makes golf a little tough but it helps me to stay on the range a bit more to work on the extension piece. Occasionally I will hit a beautiful high shot that makes all the work worth it.

[mvmac]

  mchepp said:

Still working on the extension pieces. Developed a wicked pull hook so it makes golf a little tough but it helps me to stay on the range a bit more to work on the extension piece. Occasionally I will hit a beautiful high shot that makes all the work worth it.

Those swings look much improved Mike.

So most shots are pull hooking, irons and driver?

On the swings that you feel like you did a good job of thrusting/extending, do they still pull hook?

[Hammer 4]

  mchepp said:

Swinging at 75 percent trying to work on the extension piece.

What I'd like to know is..have one pf those balls bouncing off the wall, ever come back and hit you..?

BTW, your latest vid, swing looks good.

[mchepp]

  Hammer 4 said:

What I'd like to know is..have one pf those balls bouncing off the wall, ever come back and hit you..?

BTW, your latest vid, swing looks good.

Very often!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost 2-3 a practice session. Sometimes right in the head. Once I get one I will post it of me trying to get out of the way. Watching myself in slow motion trying to get the hell out of the way give me a new respect for hockey goalies.