2013 - NFL Playoffs

[Harmonious]

Originally Posted by JetFan1983

I'm setting it at 21.5.

Sorry. I meant for the entire game, not just the first quarter.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Harmonious

Sorry. I meant for the entire game, not just the first quarter.

[teamroper60]

Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer

I love how no one wants to give the Ravens a chance.  They also didnt give them a chance to beat Denver and look how that worked out.  Im not a Ravens fan but all of the Ravens haters are making me want to cheer for the Ravens.  Well, that and the fact that I cant stand the other 3 teams.

I'm not "hating" on the Ravens.   They are a good team.   But that defense IS getting old (by NFL standards) and they did just play a 5+ quarter game in high altitude.    The extra time on the field and the change in altitude are very likely to have adverse affects on them.  Now they have to go into New England and face a team that averages almost 35 points and over 400 yds a game and rarely loses at home.  Can they win?  Sure.   As the only saying goes, "On any given Sunday......"   But the deck seems to be stacked against them just a bit..

[RonTheSavage]

I dont have a dog in this fight being a Niner fan, but do not discount the Ray Lewis emotion factor. If the Pats and Ravens played a 7 game series, I'd say Pats everytime. But one game , possibly Ray Ray's last???? I think this game is gonna be alot closer than people think, maybe even a Ravens win.

[boogielicious]

Agreed.  I think it will be close.  Just like I thought the Raven's had a good chance against Denver because it was going to be very cold.  Manning is 0 for 4 now in cold weather games.  But I do think the Pats are better now than they were in Sept when they played the Ravens before and the Ravens are more beat up now.  The Ravens were playing outstanding football in the first four or five games.  Any given Sunday.

[CanuckAaron]

I hope the Pats win, I really can't stand Ray Lewis or the Ravens. As everyone stated, Pats at home, great offence and the Ravens may be tired leads one to believe they should win but I am worried about the karma factor for the close loss last year to New England and that missed FG.

[meenman]

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

I hope the Pats win, I really can't stand Ray Lewis or the Ravens. As everyone stated, Pats at home, great offence and the Ravens may be tired leads one to believe they should win but I am worried about the karma factor for the close loss last year to New England and that missed FG.

If karma is real, the pats will either lose this week or in the bowl, all of their super bowls have asterisks next to them due to belicheat and spygate - they have won nothing since being caught.

[newtogolf]

Ray Lewis is one of the best linebackers to play football imo.  He's a student of the game, a leader on the Ravens and made everyone around him a better player.

None of us know for certain what happened the day of the shooting but the guy was at a crossroads and he turned his life around so I'm rooting for the Raven to win the Super Bowl this year for him.

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

I hope the Pats win, I really can't stand Ray Lewis or the Ravens. As everyone stated, Pats at home, great offence and the Ravens may be tired leads one to believe they should win but I am worried about the karma factor for the close loss last year to New England and that missed FG.

[RonTheSavage]

Originally Posted by meenman

If karma is real, the pats will either lose this week or in the bowl, all of their super bowls have asterisks next to them due to belicheat and spygate - they have won nothing since being caught.

That makes me very happy

[CanuckAaron]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

Ray Lewis is one of the best linebackers to play football imo.  He's a student of the game, a leader on the Ravens and made everyone around him a better player.

None of us know for certain what happened the day of the shooting but the guy was at a crossroads and he turned his life around so I'm rooting for the Raven to win the Super Bowl this year for him.

It was a double homicide, not a DUI and of course none of us have any idea what happened but there are a lot of unanswered questions and two dead people as a result. Good for Ray Lewis that he turned his life around but how does that help the two dead people?

I was not commenting on his football skills, he is a great player but if he was involved at all that night then he should be in prison and not celebrated on national television, only he knows for sure which it is.

Originally Posted by meenman

If karma is real, the pats will either lose this week or in the bowl, all of their super bowls have asterisks next to them due to belicheat and spygate - they have won nothing since being caught.

They have gone to two superbowls since and would have won one of them if it wasn't for a miracle catch by a guy who does not even play in the league anymore. Hardly qualifies as not winning anything.

[x129]

The pats have played 5 superbowls under brady.  Except for the eagles game (and even that one is close), they were all coin flips.  The fact that the won the first two and lost the last 2 doesn't mean much.

I expect a good game. That probably means a blowout.

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

They have gone to two superbowls since and would have won one of them if it wasn't for a miracle catch by a guy who does not even play in the league anymore. Hardly qualifies as not winning anything.

[jamo]

They have gone to two superbowls since and would have won one of them if it wasn't for a miracle catch by a guy who does not even play in the league anymore. Hardly qualifies as not winning anything.

Don't mind him. He's still mad that the Giants missed the playoffs. ;-)

[CanuckAaron]

Originally Posted by x129

The pats have played 5 superbowls under brady.  Except for the eagles game (and even that one is close), they were all coin flips.  The fact that the won the first two and lost the last 2 doesn't mean much.

I expect a good game. That probably means a blowout.

Winning three of 5 means everything, just ask Jim Kelly 0-4 but I get what you are saying. I hope for a good game, I am a lions fan so I really do not have strong feelings for any of the teams in the conference finals but I like watching good games, no matter what the sport.

[dak4n6]

I don't mean to be a hate peddler but I too can not stand Ray Lewis or Belicheck and the Pats smugness, so c'mon 9ers! Kaepernick was beast against the Pack.

[meenman]

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

They have gone to two superbowls since and would have won one of them if it wasn't for a miracle catch by a guy who does not even play in the league anymore. Hardly qualifies as not winning anything.

That sounds like a typical chowd response. I could also make an equally ridiculous statement saying that the patsies didnt belong in last years bowl because they only won on a missed field goal.

Fact is fact - since belicheat was caught cheating, the pats have won ZERO super bowls - which means the ones before that are about as legit as Sammy Sosa's 70 homers.

[jamo]

NFL Network is replaying last year's AFC Championship. Can't believe I forgot Julian Edelman was playing DB in nickel formations.

[CanuckAaron]

Originally Posted by meenman

That sounds like a typical chowd response. I could also make an equally ridiculous statement saying that the patsies didnt belong in last years bowl because they only won on a missed field goal.

Fact is fact - since belicheat was caught cheating, the pats have won ZERO super bowls - which means the ones before that are about as legit as Sammy Sosa's 70 homers.

I have no idea what "chowd response" means.

Your original post said "they hadn't won anything", when in fact they have won a lot of football games including getting back to the superbowl twice. Now that you have changed the parameters of your original comment, of course you are correct they have not won any superbowls.

Btw does the asteriks go next to Brady's name as well? Between baseball and football over the past decade or so there are going to be a lot of asterisk in professional sports. Kind of makes you wonder when the asterisk ceases to mean anything and becomes the norm.

If you think that other teams do not take any advantage they can get and bend the rules to win (Saints) then you have more faith than I ever will. Professional sports are a business first, no different than wall street.

[meenman]

Originally Posted by CanuckAaron

Btw does the asteriks go next to Brady's name as well? Between baseball and football over the past decade or so there are going to be a lot of asterisk in professional sports. Kind of makes you wonder when the asterisk ceases to mean anything and becomes the norm.

Of course brady gets the asterisks too (he has not won a bowl without his team cheating) - it's guilt by association. I wouldnt exactly say the saints cheated - they just did something that was *morally* wrong at the wrong time - if the NFL didnt have it's concussion issue, they probably would have only had their hands slapped.