The Tiger is trying to get Elin back thread

[Pablo68]

Originally Posted by MSchott

What a phenomenally cynical take. I'm not saying Tiger has changed but certainly people can change and do all the time. There are plenty of compelling reasons for a couple to reunite and kids are number one on the list. Second is that at one time these two loved each other enough to marry and become parents together. I don't know if this story is true and I doubt it is based on how pissed Elin was at Tiger but stranger things have happened.And if this does happen and they have a successful future together it will because Tiger changed himself, not Elin changing Tiger.

It's presumptious to assume they got married because they were in love. She may have been but I'm not sure if Tiger knew/knows what love is. If you love someone, you don't go whoring around; especially without condoms. For Pete's sake, even one was a porn star. Way to risk your life and the life of your wife for the pleasure of sticking Tiger Jr. in a human petri dish. That isn't love.

That being said, Tiger could change if HE wants to; I'm sure if he puts in half the effort that he does to change his swing into getting help with his problems, he stands a chance.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that he's done what appears to me as irrepairable damage to his relationship with that particular woman. She was publically humiliated and unless she's completely stupid, she'll realize this will always be a story and the whispering behind her back will continue for years. It's unlikely he'll ever be trusted again and she'll always be waiting for the other shoe to drop. He'll be under constant scrutiny and always be looking over his shoulder. How long do you think he'll be willing to endure that?

IMO, he should just get counselling and therapy but find another woman with whom he can start with a clean slate. She should find someone out of the public eye and live off the money she's already gotten.

[bubble]

I dont think seperate people re-unite for long.

she betraied him any way, she said "in desease, sickness or in health" and tiger was sex sick addicted

then she left with money.

nothing any ordinary people dont do every day

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by Pablo68

She may have been but I'm not sure if Tiger knew/knows what love is. If you love someone, you don't go whoring around; especially without condoms.

The concept of love is too abstract and subjective to be able to quantify so simplistically.  Love seems to be drastically different to many people I know.  I know people that swear up and down they love their spouses, and would go into a deep depression (and have before) if that spouse left them.  Yet they still cheat on them.  The longer I live on this earth the more I'm convinced that the challenge of human love is not to care deeply about having somebody and their well-being, but being selfless enough to forego indulging in acts that would hurt them.  A lot of people "love" somebody, but are still the same selfish bastards they were before they found that person.  I'm guessing you would assert that, that isn't love.  Touche.  But if it isn't love, then what is it?  How many people are truly capable of selfless love?

[14ledo81]

Originally Posted by Pablo68

It's presumptious to assume they got married because they were in love. She may have been but I'm not sure if Tiger knew/knows what love is. If you love someone, you don't go whoring around; especially without condoms. For Pete's sake, even one was a porn star. Way to risk your life and the life of your wife for the pleasure of sticking Tiger Jr. in a human petri dish. That isn't love.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

[Zeph]

I won't delve into the human psyche and claim that it isn't love, but the children are probably better off with them being together, given that they don't fight all the time. If being with Elin is what Tiger wants, I'm all for it, as long as she's in it as well. I do believe Tiger is in a better state of mind in stable relationship.

[Old1964]

It is the horror of men that they judge themselves by their intentions and others by their actions.

While we typically think about how great Tiger had it (or has it depending on your perspective),

we seldom consider the notion that his affluence, talents, opportunities, and accomplishments

have also provided nearly endless opportunities to destroy himself and others

through choosing pleasure and tranquility over the virtues and responsibilities of reality.

[Pablo68]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

The concept of love is too abstract and subjective to be able to quantify so simplistically.  Love seems to be drastically different to many people I know.  I know people that swear up and down they love their spouses, and would go into a deep depression (and have before) if that spouse left them.  Yet they still cheat on them.  The longer I live on this earth the more I'm convinced that the challenge of human love is not to care deeply about having somebody and their well-being, but being selfless enough to forego indulging in acts that would hurt them.  A lot of people "love" somebody, but are still the same selfish bastards they were before they found that person.  I'm guessing you would assert that, that isn't love.  Touche.  But if it isn't love, then what is it?  How many people are truly capable of selfless love?

Well, you're spot on with it being selfless.

IMO to truly love your spouse means commitment; throw the parachutes out of the plane, cast off the lifeboats and commit to the ride you're on. If you don't have an escape plan, you'll try as hard as you can to make sure it works.

And yes selfish bastards/b!tches can change. But if you want to truly start with a clean slate, find someone who hasn't seen that old persona.

[ev780]

Originally Posted by colin007

she looks spectacular.  what a hot woman...i cant believe he ever left her.

Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer

Well, actually SHE left him after he cheated on her multiple times.  Why youd ever cheat when you had something that hot waiting for you at home makes no sense but IMO his cheating had nothing to do with Elin and everything to do with Tiger and his ego.

Originally Posted by hacker101

WOW, why would you cheat on her and mess up your life for a one nighter. Sorry but nothing out there is worth that I am sure the one girl was not the only one he did.

Even after one kid she is gorgeous to bad he messed it up for him and his kid.

No matter how beautiful she is, somebody, somewhere, is sick of her shit!

[Deryck Griffith]

Originally Posted by 14ledo81

I don't think many could. That's why you don't put yourself in those situations.

In most cases, the situations come to him.

[zeg]

Originally Posted by Pablo68

The point I was trying to make earlier is that he's done what appears to me as irrepairable damage to his relationship with that particular woman.

[...]

IMO, he should just get counselling and therapy but find another woman with whom he can start with a clean slate. She should find someone out of the public eye and live off the money she's already gotten.

Oh come on, "what appears to [you] as irrepairable [sic] damage"? There's one person who gets to decide what the damage is and whether its reparable, and it's not some guy on the Internet going by what he heard on ESPN2.

People do things that hurt those that they love all the time. It doesn't mean the love wasn't there, or wasn't real, it just means they made a bad decision. The extent of the damage from any hurtful act has to be determined by those involved (hint: this doesn't involve fans or the media). Many marriages survive infidelity, it depends on the circumstances. Should they give up on each other and their family just because they're public figures and it might be embarrassing to be asked questions about it?

[Rick Martin]

Speaking of TW, did you see his backyard practice areas?

[tuffluck]

There's more to life than getting tail.

Except for Tiger (aside from golf). He shouldn't have gotten married no doubt. Kind of odd though that he slept with all those women and now wants Elin back. Almost like it took cheating on her to realize he loved her. Great reading material for a man considering cheating, no? Though won't surprise me if this is fake.

[laconic517]

man,

if he did get back with her with that pre-nup and she decided to be vindictive and not sleep with him regularly omfg.  It has to be gutwrenching for a guy like Tiger Woods to be relegated to some handaction because his wife won't have sex with him.

[dsc123]

Originally Posted by laconic517

man,

if he did get back with her with that pre-nup and she decided to be vindictive and not sleep with him regularly omfg.  It has to be gutwrenching for a guy like Tiger Woods to be relegated to some handaction because his wife won't have sex with him.

love it!

[newtogolf]

I just saw on the news that Tiger is reported to be dating Lindsey Vonn, the Olympic skier.  She looks a little bit like Elin, maybe people got them confused.

[Zeph]

Lindsey Vonn would not be a bad catch. Not bad at all.

[Deryck Griffith]

Man, if this Lindsay Vonn rumor is true, Tiger definitely has a "type"

[walk18]

Man, if this Lindsay Vonn rumor is true, Tiger definitely has a "type"

umm, yeah as in "hot"