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Posting radar numbers here for reference. 8I, wind against. Range balls, mixed bag, at least spin numbers seem to be normal.

Exaggerating "cover and around" piece. 

 

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I'm about a club behind PGA Tour averages with the irons, but distance drops significantly going to the big headed clubs. Will have to figure that out. Still hesitant to go harder with the longer clubs may be one of the reasons.

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Worked on the low trajectory shots for those wayward drives. Will have to figure out how to straighten these out, face less closed to path.

 

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So over the years, Erik, Preston, my current pro and current lesson here (Shauheen) while on holiday in Montreal have all been telling me a variant of the same thing. To cover and turn through. I think it's just taken years for me, my proprioception IQ, to catch up to the teaching, and my method of Thomas Edison learning (999 ways a light bulb doesn't work to find one that does) doesn't help. But learning to be more natural and less mechanical about it, not think way through it. Some people collect clubs, some people have a bucket list of courses. I like bouncing ideas off as many smart people as I can find. If four people are telling you pretty much the same thing, but in different ways, that's probably a priority piece, lol. Basically getting around better and realizing tendency to not finish the swing.

Now thinking of getting a fitting from Kirk O'Guri at Pete's as I think the swing is settling in.

 

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On 7/17/2018 at 1:52 PM, nevets88 said:

Posting radar numbers here for reference. 8I, wind against. Range balls, mixed bag, at least spin numbers seem to be normal.

Exaggerating "cover and around" piece. 

 

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Regular swing

 

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What device did you do to get these numbers?

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11 minutes ago, RFKFREAK said:

What device did you do to get these numbers?

https://thesandtrap.com/b/training/flightscope_mevo_personal_launch_monitor_review

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Played 9 and just focused on the piece from the lesson and drove it really well, still had a couple of rights, but didn't go OB although one was close to being in the fescue, but they were good rights in a way as I forced my myself to turn through on every drive. A couple of times, it felt like holy Toledo, this is going left of Karl Marx, and it went straight. One of the reasons I don't turn through I think is it feels out of control, so counter intuitive that to gain control need to feel out of control.

This could just be the lesson's honeymoon period, will wait and see next round. Ball flight is lower and more piercing and right to left, which is encouraging. Maybe it helped that I didn't go to the range after the lesson and go into analysis mode. Also pulled the trigger on swing at course much quicker, didn't allow time to put multiple swing thoughts into head. Still hit a couple fat because still stalling, hope is for a round to have zero, zero gnarly shots.

If I can solve or mitigate greatly the accuracy lost strokes off the tee problem, that's going to help a lot and can focus more on the wedges, which have been meaning to get to but no time.

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Practicing on my own, backswing is cleaner compared to lesson, was so focused on instructor, I guess my backswing got flat and long during lesson. Already, not as rotated at 7 as I was during lesson, although better than before, no high right shoulder. Will have to break out the alignment stick and loop it through belt loops. There is something to be said for the amount of exaggeration you do when there is a set of trained eyes behind you versus none. One tell that shows the difference between old and new is no weight on the trail toe at A10. Have also been using dry erase to note *exactly* where on the face contact is being made, helps in knowing better without a camera when I'm getting heel hits and how heely they are.

 

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Did the alignment stick in the belt loop drills this time, getting more and more used to getting around more. More rotated at impact, more rotated at finish.

 

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Not getting hands deep enough around A2 to A3, resulting in fat pulls, at least that's what I think it is. CoM moving out too much here.

Backswing is better here:

Ballstriking is better, hitting it further when contact is good and better able to flight the ball down for recovery shots. If able to mimic the above swing more, hoping to eliminate the fat pulls.

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Used a couple of range sessions to get acquainted with new iron set, MP-53s. They were heavier than I remembered, nice to go back to forged. smaller heads, thinner topline, used a set of Mizunos before and loved them but the heads don't look that much different than old Titleist GI irons w/respect to mass in the back although the cavity back gets progressively smaller the shorter the club. There's a PW in the set, so not sure whether to go with that or existing Titleist Vokey 48. More comfortable with weight distribution, strike, and sound of the clubs now.

 

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Looking good @nevets88!

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16 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Used a couple of range sessions to get acquainted with new iron set, MP-53s. They were heavier than I remembered, nice to go back to forged. smaller heads, thinner topline, used a set of Mizunos before and loved them but the heads don't look that much different than old Titleist GI irons w/respect to mass in the back although the cavity back gets progressively smaller the shorter the club. There's a PW in the set, so not sure whether to go with that or existing Titleist Vokey 48. More comfortable with weight distribution, strike, and sound of the clubs now.

 

My instructor wants me to finish more like this video! Looking good Steve.

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New irons, new ball. Cut ball is not bad, only recent ball I'm familiar w/is the Snell MTB Black. MP-53s, the feel is much better compared to AP2s, can better tell where off the face I'm hitting it, goes a little higher more spin, off center hits don't lose as much distance as I thought they would even though they feel like they won't go as far. Need to learn how to hit a low cut now that I'm much better with low escape shots, although all they do is draw. Just happy I can hit those shots that just go 1 yard off the ground with consistency now will have to work with pro on getting driver going right straightened out. Eventually will get fitted for an Edel and maybe new wedges next year. Getting more distance now that pivot is better although off line drives while okay on the wide open Bethpage courses, will kill me on tighter courses.

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Low cuts are hard. This is the most I can curve it for now. Other tries curved less, some pulls. Can't even start it left then curve right. It's just a start, will keep working on this.

 

 

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I'd like this to be my swing your swing. But 1/4 -1/2 inch contact towards toe. Still figuring out the heel contact bias. If I could put that stick in the loops on the course  

 

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6 hours ago, nevets88 said:

I'd like this to be my swing your swing. But 1/4 -1/2 inch contact towards toe. Still figuring out the heel contact bias.

Have you tried addressing it (on the ground) with the ball off the toe of the driver? When you lift the driver up to hit it off the face… it's more centered that way.

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