US Open question?

[bullhusk]

Why does the Open call it a "National" championship when it has foreign players? Shouldn't it just be a World championship?

[boogielicious]

It is the Championship for the US.  A foreigner can will, but it is still the US Championship.

[Chilli Dipper]

It's the championship sanctioned by the national regulatory body of golf in the United States.

[Shorty]

  bullhusk said:

Originally Posted by bullhusk

Why does the Open call it a "National" championship when it has foreign players? Shouldn't it just be a World championship?

Virtually every country has a national championship in virtually every sport. They are almost always open to competitors from overseas.

This might make one reflect on grandiose titles like the "World Series" in baseball - which should be called the North American Baseball Championship.

[minitour]

I'm not a fan of the self-righteous proclaiming themselves "world champions" (Yes, NBA, MLB, NHL and NFL, I'm looking at you and your respective championships) especially when you're lucky to play a team from Canada and that's the extent of the "world" flavor.

It's a joke.  A sad joke.

[GeorgiaGolfer]

I agree with the national Championship for the United States logic.

But applying that same reasoning, I guess a more contentious question is why "The Open Championship" should not be formally renamed "The British Open" especially as most folks outside of the U.K. already call it that.

[zipazoid]

  GeorgiaGolfer said:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaGolfer

I agree with the national Championship for the United States logic.

But applying that same reasoning, I guess a more contentious question is why "The Open Championship" should not be formally renamed "The British Open" especially as most folks outside of the U.K. already call it that.

Tradition, mainly. Being the oldest of the majors, when it started in 1860, golf was only being played in Scotland/Britain. So back then it was, essentially, The Open Championship.

So don't expect the R&A; to change it to a title which basically shrinks its significance.

[boogielicious]

  Shorty said:

Originally Posted by Shorty

Virtually every country has a national championship in virtually every sport. They are almost always open to competitors from overseas.

This might make one reflect on grandiose titles like the "World Series" in baseball - which should be called the North American Baseball Championship.

This is the original title of the Series when it was first promoted, which is why it is still called the "World Series".  And because baseball is a world sport, and all the world's best players are in Major League Baseball where the big money is, it still is a championship of the best teams in the world.

[minitour]

  GeorgiaGolfer said:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaGolfer

I agree with the national Championship for the United States logic.

But applying that same reasoning, I guess a more contentious question is why "The Open Championship" should not be formally renamed "The British Open" especially as most folks outside of the U.K. already call it that.

Because it's actually called the "Open Championship".  The one being played this week is actually called the "US Open".  When you win the Open Championship, you're the "champion golfer" for the year.  I think that's the coolest thing about the Open Championship is being the "champion golfer".  That's something I'd love to slap on a resume.

[minitour]

  boogielicious said:

Originally Posted by boogielicious

This is the original title of the Series when it was first promoted, which is why it is still called the "World Series".  And because baseball is a world sport, and all the world's best players are in Major League Baseball where the big money is, it still is a championship of the best teams in the world.

But you're not the "world champions".  You're the champions of major league baseball.

That should be enough.

Now the little league world series, that DOES produce a "World Champion".

[Wally Fairway]

The even bigger joke are the "World Golf Championship" events - they should be called invitationals, as they are very limited field, no cut events; which have been played, almost, exclusively in the USA. If they wanted to portray those more accurately it should be the "Rich getting Richer Invitationals" - but that isn't going to happen.

[Mr. Desmond]

  Wally Fairway said:

The even bigger joke are the "World Golf Championship" events - they should be called invitationals, as they are very limited field, no cut events; which have been played, almost, exclusively in the USA. If they wanted to portray those more accurately it should be the "Rich getting Richer Invitationals" - but that isn't going to happen.

The WGC was established by the PGA Tour because Greg Norman threatened to start his own Tour. In order to head that off, the PGA Tour started the WGC Events

[boogielicious]

  minitour said:

Originally Posted by minitour

But you're not the "world champions".  You're the champions of major league baseball.

That should be enough.

Now the little league world series, that DOES produce a "World Champion".

When Major league baseball started the World Series, they were the only league.  It still produces a champion of, by far, the best league.

[minitour]

  boogielicious said:

Originally Posted by boogielicious

When Major league baseball started the World Series, they were the only league.  It still produces a champion of, by far, the best league.

And?

Still...you'd be the champion of major league baseball, not the "world" champion.

Again, reference the LLWS for a true "World Champion".

[eich41]

  minitour said:

Originally Posted by minitour

And?

Still...you'd be the champion of major league baseball, not the "world" champion.

Again, reference the LLWS for a true "World Champion".

If you can put together a baseball team consisting solely of guys not already playing in the MLB, and beat whoever wins the World Series, you would have a point.  I'm thinking you would have a hard time doing so though.

[Golfingdad]

  eich41 said:

If you can put together a baseball team consisting solely of guys not already playing in the MLB, and beat whoever wins the World Series, you would have a point.  I'm thinking you would have a hard time doing so though.

The only fighting chance you'd have is if you just grabbed the Cuban national team. And maybe a few relief pitchers from Japan :)

[Ole_Tom_Morris]

  Shorty said:

Originally Posted by Shorty

Virtually every country has a national championship in virtually every sport. They are almost always open to competitors from overseas.

This might make one reflect on grandiose titles like the "World Series" in baseball - which should be called the North American Baseball Championship.

United States & Canada major league professional baseball championship.  :)

[boogielicious]

  Ole_Tom_Morris said:

Originally Posted by Ole_Tom_Morris

United States & Canada major league professional baseball championship.  :)

Except all the world's best players are there, so World Championship.