Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Crim

Workout BEFORE or AFTER golf?

23 posts in this topic

The new facility I'm at also has a small area with weights that I plan to use. Should I plan to workout before or after full swing practice?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Want to get rid of this advertisement? Sign up (or log in) today! It's free!

I don't think it really matters. This is just from seeing what the pros do and some of my personal experience recently. Guys workout before and/or after their rounds. If you haven't worked out in a while it might make sense to workout after you hit balls.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It depends on what your priority is so you can dedicate your best effort to what's most important.

If I'm training to run a marathon, it's more important that I give my runs top priority and I run before golf.  If I'm just training to maintain conditioning (between races), then I run after golf.  I usually try to schedule my training and golf so that I don't have to do both on the same day.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It depends on what your priority is so you can dedicate your best effort to what's most important.

If I'm training to run a marathon, it's more important that I give my runs top priority and I run before golf.  If I'm just training to maintain conditioning (between races), then I run after golf.  I usually try to schedule my training and golf so that I don't have to do both on the same day.

My main priority is golf. I only work out to stay in relatively good shape and not look like gumby.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My main priority is golf. I only work out to stay in relatively good shape and not look like gumby.

It's been a while since I owned a Gumby but I think he was pretty flexible so it's not all bad. :-)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It's been a while since I owned a Gumby but I think he was pretty flexible so it's not all bad.

hahaha yeah after I posted the pic I thought, you know with that lanky flexible frame, Gumby might have some decent club speed.

I was thinking more of aesthetics B-)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I find that I play better after working out because I am a little tight, which prevents me from over swinging.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Considering I usually have a few beers golfing before. But most days I workout before and after work. If I am golfing I prefer to workout somewhat close to my tee time, gets me focused and it's a good warm up. Even on the days I head out after work I have an employee help me with some medicine ball throws before I go. That way if I get there and have to head to the tee I am good to go.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Depends on what type of workout. If I have time, I stop by my gym on the way to the course and get on the elliptical trainer for about 15 minutes. This gets my muscles warmed up and helps me feel loose. I then do a 4-part dynamic stretching routine before I hit a few balls and tee off.

If you overdo it on the weights, it could throw off your swing tempo. And, you could have fatigue on the back nine.

I was at a golf shop last summer, and another person came in to use the hitting bay. The first 10 shots he hit were pretty good, but then he started overswinging and really spraying the ball. He then said he lifted weights for an hour before coming so he could get loosened up.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Hey I just joined the forum, but though I'd give my opinion. What type of workout are you doing? Lifting weights? Cardio?  Or a mix of both? Personally I tend to just lift weights and I would never dream of working out before playing a round. If you are properly working out your muscles should be aching. Let your muscles recover, eat and play golf when your muscles have recovered. That's just my opinion though :)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lots of top players play better after a workout.  The nervous system is excited, the big muscles are active so you're less likely to fall out of rhythm and enact handsy manipulations.

I think it depends on what you're doing - what do you call a workout?  To me that's self-massage, lifting free weights, calisthenics, and possibly conditioning.  To others that just means running and stretching.

Over time I convinced a lot of athletes over a wide range of sports that some modest-weight but up-tempo lifting is a great pre-game activity.  It has so many benefits.

In the pros many will work out after a round or game but that's to maximize recovery time.  If you're not playing 5 straight days, it's less important and you have more flexibility.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Plan a workout after. Higher skill activities should come first, after a light stretch and warmup. This is old school thinking, so maybe it's changed?

That being said, hitting golf balls is my workout. I stretch out before hitting them and after hitting them. It takes me 2 hours to hit a bucket of 120, now. 2-3 practice swings per ball. Estimated calorie burn is around 1200 (based upon consumption and weight loss). I think the 30 driver shots take the most.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Plan a workout after. Higher skill activities should come first, after a light stretch and warmup.

That being said, hitting golf balls is my workout. I stretch out before hitting them and after hitting them. It takes me 2 hours to hit a bucket of 120, now. 2-3 practice swings per ball. Estimated calorie burn is around 1200 (based upoon consumption and weight loss). I think the 30 driver shots take the most.


Depends on what your workout is.  A clean, snatch or turkish get-up is incredibly high skill.

Getting the hands to calm down relative to the big boy muscles being facilitated is a great primer for golf.

I love it that you stretch after hitting.  Stretching before will cause a loss of swing speed for at least 30 minutes - may not be a big deal as you warm up on the range but it's a fact.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068685

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lihu

Plan a workout after. Higher skill activities should come first, after a light stretch and warmup.

That being said, hitting golf balls is my workout. I stretch out before hitting them and after hitting them. It takes me 2 hours to hit a bucket of 120, now. 2-3 practice swings per ball. Estimated calorie burn is around 1200 (based upoon consumption and weight loss). I think the 30 driver shots take the most.

Depends on what your workout is.  A clean, snatch or turkish get-up is incredibly high skill.

Getting the hands to calm down relative to the big boy muscles being facilitated is a great primer for golf.

I love it that you stretch after hitting.  Stretching before will cause a loss of swing speed for at least 30 minutes - may not be a big deal as you warm up on the range but it's a fact.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068685

Yeah, I amended my statement, because this is what I was taught doing varsity sports many years ago and is probably outdated thinking.

My pre-golf stretching is relatively light, and I typically take 30 to 40 minutes just swinging and hitting wedges. It takes almost an hour before I am ready for the driver.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Well, your statements are actually spot on but I appreciate the thoughts nonetheless.  High skill items should come first.  That's why what the workout is means so much.

You can probably get more benefit and skip the swing speed loss with some self-massage (foam rolling or other), dynamic stretching and a few activation drills.  I included a couple videos of some things we do with athletes of all levels and sports:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8IjAdP6ddI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyinXQyA92A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZadmPcBmj0M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBNrYsKvyLk

That's a heck of a useful 10 minutes to spend for a golf warm-up.  $20 of equipment that will last for years, easily portable, and done almost anywhere.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, your statements are actually spot on but I appreciate the thoughts nonetheless.  High skill items should come first.  That's why what the workout is means so much.

You can probably get more benefit and skip the swing speed loss with some self-massage (foam rolling or other), dynamic stretching and a few activation drills.  I included a couple videos of some things we do with athletes of all levels and sports:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8IjAdP6ddI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyinXQyA92A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZadmPcBmj0M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBNrYsKvyLk

That's a heck of a useful 10 minutes to spend for a golf warm-up.  $20 of equipment that will last for years, easily portable, and done almost anywhere.


Nice, I will take a look at these. My current issue is to reduce the warmup time for driver. Thanks for the information.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Not sure what kind of shape you are in but I would do it after -- you don't want to play fatigued (unless it's a light workout).   I'd start with an active warmup hitting all 3 planes (3 directions) glute bridges, side planks, and on all 4's opposite leg / arm out (then switch) for your warm up.  Also stick to pulling motions (so if you lift by muscle groups, back and biceps for example)... The key is not to over-do it - wear and tear chronic injuries (overtime and accelerated from overuse) are NOT fun to deal with and are very common.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2016 TST Partners

    GAME Golf
    PING Golf
    Lowest Score Wins
  • Posts

    • I know this is "under review" so to speak, but I would echo this. I went back Jeremie's swing thread; his receptivity to direction and subsequent swing changes has demonstrated his dedication, and his obedience has born out marked improvement. Nice job, Jeremie!
    • Errrr.... Typo: Els and not Else... Sorry about that :)
      Is there a way to edit a topic started post?
    • I readily admit that I'm a baby when it comes to humidity. Thankfully I live in a place where I don't usually have to worry about it.
    • Lessons, depending on your arrangement with your home course, can be a much better way to make money than if you just work in the shop.  In the shop I would imagine you're not making much more than $15 an hour, even as a professional, assuming that you aren't salaried to run the golf operation for a city. Even if you charged a relatively cheap rate of $50 an hour for lessons, and the course took half of your inexpensive fee, you would be making $10 more an hour than you would otherwise and it might be more enjoyable that pro shop work for you. Playing lessons could be even more lucrative depending on your rates, and you can even play some golf yourself (either playing with the player or demonstrating a shot, for example).  Youth programs can be highly profitable if that's something you're interested in. A local course with two PGA professionals has a weekly group lesson for junior golfers at $20 per person. On the days that this program is running they easily have 30-40 kids ($600-800) out there working on chipping and putting (and then the kids go out to walk nine holes afterwords). Depending on how your course operates and how busy it is this is something you could look into organizing. Put up flyers both on the course and in public areas where you are allowed to post things to get the word out. If you are somewhat tech and business inclined it might be a good idea to look into starting up a small business of your own selling golf apparel and equipment. Take advantage of your PGA membership and start up accounts with the major brands such as Titleist, PING, Taylormade, Scotty Cameron (they kind of do their stuff separate from Titleist) and put up a storefront on your own website. Squarespace is one web-hosting company I know of that does an excellent job of making it easy for you to put together what you want. Nearly everything in most golf shops is marked up at keystone pricing or higher, so there is definitely profit to be made if you can get some web traffic (and it never hurts to have it up for people to stumble upon).  Look up public courses in your area and figure out who the person in charge of contracting out the golf courses is. The title in my city is the "Golf Operations Manager", but this varies from city to city. Get to know this person and learn when the management contracts for various courses expire so you can put your bid in to run one of the courses on behalf of the city. This is where you'd likely end up making the most money, but it would be the most administrative of the options. You would likely be responsible for hiring, firing, reports, and other day to day tasks but the big advantage is that the city, in most cases, will allow you to use the pro shop to sell your own merchandise. This becomes huge since then the profits (or at least a large portion of them) from every pro shop sale goes into your pocket, though it does come with the added work of managing inventory and negotiating terms with the city. This is, though, by far the most lucrative option that would be somewhat easily (with enough background work and a good proposal/interview) attainable. One other thing, along the lines of the previous point, that you could do is see if there are any professionals that are contracted to run two golf courses through the city. My city currently works this way, but the professional has to subcontract the second course to another PGA professional in order to manage everything smoothly. As a result of this the professional at the course I work for (the subcontracted professional) is now a near shoe-in to win the bid to manage the golf course he's been running when the city contract becomes available this January, just because he has been running the show there for the last four years. Continuing to excel at your current position at the golf course while networking and getting to know your customers (a large factor for the aforementioned pro is that he has developed close ties with the clientele and has increased revenue as a result) is something that will be viewed favorably if you later put in a bid to manage the course.
    • It took me two years to get from a 24 handicap (my starting point) to about a 6-8 handicap when I started playing seriously. It then took me another two years to get from about a 7 to a 2. In the last year I had a big jump that got me from the 2 handicap to my current +1.5, which I would consider to be the largest leap I've ever made (which is somewhat funny, considering I've probably practiced the least in the last year as compared to previous years). It just kind of clicked for me that it's okay to expect to make birdies, whereas before I felt like I never could make any.
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Images

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. JLeeWildcat9
      JLeeWildcat9
      (30 years old)
    2. Ping Man
      Ping Man
      (52 years old)
  • Blog Entries