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Switching from game improvement clubs to player's clubs!

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I'm ready for some new irons now but I'm still not made of money. Been playing my G10s for about 5 years now and my handicap is down to about 9-10. Been looking at some Wilson FG tour V2 irons that I think I really want. Look great and are affordable to me. Don't know much about modern WilsonStaff clubs. Also hit a Bridgestone J33 6 iron today. Felt great and loo ks even better. Know nothing about Bridgestone clubs. Any thoughts or comments would be great. As an aside, I got to try out a new Callaway Apex 6 iron. Hands down best feeling iron I've ever hit! Going to be expensive when they come out in Jan. Thanks, Trent
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I think what you really got to figure out is how much you can spend, then go from there.  Basically all the top companies make good stuff, when it comes to players irons there aren't huge differences.  You can also save money by looking at models that are a few years old, like Titleist AP2 710 or 712, might even be able to find a new set.  Here's a set on ebay, starting bid is $200

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Titleist-AP2-710-Iron-set-Golf-Club-/321275231580?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item4acd7efd5c

Couple great sets of Mizuno's

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mizuno-MP-53-Irons-3-P-KBS-Tour-Stiff-/321274452693?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item4acd731ad5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mizuno-MP-63-Iron-set-3-PW-Dynamic-Gold-S300-/291039397660?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item43c34cc71c

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My goodness, why spend $1000.00 on the new ones when those have never been hit, and besides if you don't like the way they are set up your still way ahead even if you change shafts IMO.

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I find myself in a similar circumstance.    I am playing with irons that I have used for about 7 years.   Having taken some lessons, I am playing some of my best golf.   However, in my case, I am still at a level where game improvement irons are best for me. Some of  my buds suggest that I should take advantage of the technology developed during the 7 years that I  have used my current irons.   My question--would my current irons be that dated, have the technological developments been that major as to really make a difference?

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I'm ready for some new irons now but I'm still not made of money. Been playing my G10s for about 5 years now and my handicap is down to about 9-10. Been looking at some Wilson FG tour V2 irons that I think I really want ....

This would be a good time to get fitted for irons. Use your G10s as a baseline, and see where you want to go from there.

Don't forget about the steel (or graphite) tube between the clubhead and the grip - it's known as the shaft, and should be a major factor in what you choose.

And, don't be too quick to jump into Player's irons. You would need to be a pretty good ball striker to use these efficiently. I played in a scramble with a guy who had been a scratch golfer in college, and played blades. Once he got a job and got married, he shifted to GI clubs, because he couldn't keep his swing in "scratch' shape.

As for UVaWahoo , what are you looking to get out of a new set of irons? And, what kind of irons do you have right now? You likely could use a fitting also.

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Thanks for the comments. Yes, I would really like to get fitted. Has anyone played Bridgestone irons? I'm also looking at the J40 dual pocket irons. Sharp but hard to find for a demo.
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Bridgestone has a new test-drive program for all their clubs. http://testdrive.bridgestonegolf.com/

For the J40 Dual Pocket Cavity, you could rent different club combo packs for comparison. One example:

  • 5i with Nippon 1050 GH R Flex shaft
  • 9i with Nippon 1050 GH R Flex shaft
  • 5i with Dynamic Gold SL R300 Flex shaft
  • 9i with Dynamic Gold SL R300 Flex shaft

Go to the Bridgestone site, link to test-drive , and select the pack you want. You make a deposit on your credit card, get them for  30 days, and then return them in the postage-paid mailer. (I think there's a usage fee involved). If you don't return them on time, you get charged for the cost of the individual clubs (about $140 x 4) on your card.

I have hit both the J36 and J40 Dual Pocket Cavity irons. A friend let me hit his J36 with softstepped Nippon 1150 Stiff shafts, and the Bridgestone demo crew brought the J40 to our course last summer.

I was able to hit both models fairly well, and got used to each in about five balls (easy to line up). Despite my HDCP, I think I could play the J40 if it had a lighter R-flex steel shaft (about 100 grams or so).

If you testdrive the J40s, let us know how it goes (the clubs, and the test-drive process).

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I find myself in a similar circumstance.    I am playing with irons that I have used for about 7 years.   Having taken some lessons, I am playing some of my best golf.   However, in my case, I am still at a level where game improvement irons are best for me. Some of  my buds suggest that I should take advantage of the technology developed during the 7 years that I  have used my current irons.   My question--would my current irons be that dated, have the technological developments been that major as to really make a difference?

Yes. Yes. And Yes!  I recenlty upgraded my 8 year old clubs and the new technology is apparent.  Mishits on my Mizuno MP64's are much straighter and longer than my previous Titleist 704CB's. The sweet spot seems to have grown too (it's not my ball striking!).  What's more, GI irons are crossing over and vice versa to "players" irons.  My  handi isn't much different from yours and my beef was the chunky scoring clubs found in most GI sets.  However, I appreciated them in my mid  and long irons.  My advice is to find a set that best suits your eye.  What you look down at should send a confidence inspiring signal back up to your noggen!

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Yes. Yes. And Yes!  I recenlty upgraded my 8 year old clubs and the new technology is apparent.  Mishits on my Mizuno MP64's are much straighter and longer than my previous Titleist 704CB's. The sweet spot seems to have grown too (it's not my ball striking!).  What's more, GI irons are crossing over and vice versa to "players" irons.  My  handi isn't much different from yours and my beef was the chunky scoring clubs found in most GI sets.  However, I appreciated them in my mid  and long irons.  My advice is to find a set that best suits your eye.  What you look down at should send a confidence inspiring signal back up to your noggen!

Every year Mizuno makes clubs longer and straighter.  I just love em'!

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Originally Posted by amac

Yes. Yes. And Yes!  I recenlty upgraded my 8 year old clubs and the new technology is apparent.  Mishits on my Mizuno MP64's are much straighter and longer than my previous Titleist 704CB's. The sweet spot seems to have grown too (it's not my ball striking!).  What's more, GI irons are crossing over and vice versa to "players" irons.  My  handi isn't much different from yours and my beef was the chunky scoring clubs found in most GI sets.  However, I appreciated them in my mid  and long irons.  My advice is to find a set that best suits your eye.  What you look down at should send a confidence inspiring signal back up to your noggen!

Every Mizuno club is longer and straighter.  I just love em'!

Especially the 8 iron.

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I find myself in a similar circumstance.    I am playing with irons that I have used for about 7 years.   Having taken some lessons, I am playing some of my best golf.   However, in my case, I am still at a level where game improvement irons are best for me. Some of  my buds suggest that I should take advantage of the technology developed during the 7 years that I  have used my current irons.   My question--would my current irons be that dated, have the technological developments been that major as to really make a difference?

Just hit the pocket cavities yesterday, good stuff, nice looking at address, satin finish and feels/sounds sweet.  Worth taking a look imo  Wouldn't say they are better or worse than the Mizuno MP54, similar performance, just a different look at address.

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I actually headed in the other direction. When I started playing half decent golf I realized I probably needed more forgiving clubs not less. It still wasn't enough. Playing around 10ish is still pretty ugly golf.

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I find myself in a similar circumstance.    I am playing with irons that I have used for about 7 years.   Having taken some lessons, I am playing some of my best golf.   However, in my case, I am still at a level where game improvement irons are best for me. Some of  my buds suggest that I should take advantage of the technology developed during the 7 years that I  have used my current irons.   My question--would my current irons be that dated, have the technological developments been that major as to really make a difference?

Well, it depends on what you are clubs you are using.  Some clubs that are 7 years old still look and play like new ones on the market today.  I do think graphite shafts are better today than 7 years ago though.

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I'm ready for some new irons now but I'm still not made of money. Been playing my G10s for about 5 years now and my handicap is down to about 9-10. Been looking at some Wilson FG tour V2 irons that I think I really want. Look great and are affordable to me. Don't know much about modern WilsonStaff clubs. Also hit a Bridgestone J33 6 iron today. Felt great and looks even better. Know nothing about Bridgestone clubs. Any thoughts or comments would be great.

As an aside, I got to try out a new Callaway Apex 6 iron. Hands down best feeling iron I've ever hit! Going to be expensive when they come out in Jan.

Thanks,

Trent

If you're looking for a forged set, you can't go wrong with Mizuno, Bridgestone, or Wilson.  So, you are on the right track.

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