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Club set upgrade thoughts for 2014

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I'm thinking of upgrading my clubs this year. Currently using some Tour Edge Bazooka Ti's with c/f shafts. They're okay but were sometimes a bit harsh. I'm also thinking of finally selling off my Ram Lasers that I bought new back in the 80's or so, full set from 1iron down to the PW and persimmon woods, just been hanging on to them for sentimental reasons. Anyway, 4 or five years ago I demo'd some Mizuno forged irons that felt really sweet, but I don't recall what model they were. And a couple years ago I picked up two used Titleist AP1's (4&5 or 5&6 iron), they seem just okay for how they feel and how I recall hitting them at the range. Last summer I did hit a few balls at a few local golf shops trying out some different brands and trying to sort out what I liked. Some clubs I really wanted to like, but for one reason or another I ruled them out. I never did get out to play last year for a variety of reasons. This year I am planning to hit the local courses and am wanting new (or new to me used) clubs. I believe for most people it comes down to how a set of clubs perform for them, how those clubs feel during use, and how they look at address. I'm open to input on other's decision processes when club shopping. Apart from all that I'm just refreshing my presence here as I migrate back into the game of golf.
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I have been making changes to my clubs this offseason too. I suggest going with used clubs. I have found a couple of steals since I started looking and therefore have saved a ton of money. Since it seems like you wouldn't mind using clubs a few models old I think used clubs would work great for you. Plus shopping for used clubs is kind of fun! Nothing  better than finding a gem for 1/4 or less of the original or current model's price tag. It's a lot more fun finding a hidden gem than just opening your wallet up to the big OEMs. At least for me it is!

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O[quote name="dwade247" url="/t/72179/club-set-upgrade-thoughts-for-2014#post_943076"]I have been making changes to my clubs this offseason too. I suggest going with used clubs. I have found a couple of steals since I started looking and therefore have saved a ton of money. Since it seems like you wouldn't mind using clubs a few models old I think used clubs would work great for you. Plus shopping for used clubs is kind of fun! Nothing  better than finding a gem for 1/4 or less of the original or current model's price tag. It's a lot more fun finding a hidden gem than just opening your wallet up to the big OEMs. At least for me it is! [/quote] I completely agree. I trade my clubs in and buy used. This year I traded in my RBZ driver R11s fw Callaway x22 tours and TM 2011 hybrid and Cleveland Mashie hybrid for Cobra Amp Cell irons, R1 black driver, Ping G20 fw, and a Callaway X Hot hybrid. With the trade in bonus that was offered and a 20% off user clubs I ended up with all new clubs and only needing to spend & to re grip.
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I've got a bunch of misc. clubs I've accumulated over the years that are stored away that I should clean up and take with me to see what I can get for trade value on them. There are three or four larger golf shops around here that I believe will deal on trade-ins. I could clear out some golf clutter at the very least.
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I'm thinking of upgrading my clubs this year. Currently using some Tour Edge Bazooka Ti's with c/f shafts. ... .

I'm open to input on other's decision processes when club shopping. Apart from all that I'm just refreshing my presence here as I migrate back into the game of golf.

Explore irons, and then get an iron fitting. To explore, go to golf shops or demo days and find out which irons you like. Note which they are.

Next, go get an iron fitting. You would hit your current BZ Ti irons to get a baseline of where you are. Then, compare them to head and shaft combinations you like during the exploring.

The last year or so, the big emphasis appears to be getting higher launch to increase shot distance. This works up to a point, but you need to make sure you're aren't skying the ball, or ballooning short iron shots.

As for clubs more than five years old... unless they're a collector's item, you won't get much for them. Most shops use the PGA Value Guide http://valueguide.pga.com/

For example, my previous driver was the Callaway HyperX Tour 10.5*, with a 68-gram Fuji E360 R.flex shaft. MSRP in 2008 was $415; I got it for less than $300 after the first price cut. Suggested trade-in value today = $6. Callaway PreOwned would give a whopping $20!

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Wutiger I have my fathers mint condition Adams A7 irons(no hybrids). Worthless according to PGA value guide.
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Since you have been away from the game you will find significant changes to equipment. Equipment has improved for the average golfer enabling them to hit higher ball flights and correct off center shots.

If you like any of the new clubs, then happy shopping, there are many great choices to select from.

Purchasing clubs over 5 years old would probably be a waste and you will probably be dissatisfied in a short time.

Finding clubs which are only a few years old is a really good option, but has limitations on finding the clubs which you like.

And you will have less options on used sets which may be close to the proper fit.

Club Rat

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Thanks for the reminder about the valueguide site. There are still a few months before the courses open so I've got time to have some fun in the search. I do appreciate the updated information about technology and the club marketplace. Looks like I've also got a little reading to do to get back in sync. Thanks all, I'll try to keep this updated as my search progresses.
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Wutiger I have my fathers mint condition Adams A7 irons(no hybrids). Worthless according to PGA value guide.

jman,

In 1994, I retired my MacGregor MT irons (1973, pro quality) and MT persimmon-headed woods. I got a custom-fitted set of Eye 2 clones as replacements.

The clubfitter told me he could give me $50 for the lot, or I could put the MTs into an old 1970s golf bag and hold it as a keepsake/history item. That's what I did, and I'm glad I did.

Those persimmon-headed woods are beautiful!

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I make changes all too often, but i've come to find that I like Wilson Staff irons and Cleveland drivers.

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jman,

In 1994, I retired my MacGregor MT irons (1973, pro quality) and MT persimmon-headed woods. I got a custom-fitted set of Eye 2 clones as replacements.

The clubfitter told me he could give me $50 for the lot, or I could put the MTs into an old 1970s golf bag and hold it as a keepsake/history item. That's what I did, and I'm glad I did.

Those persimmon-headed woods are beautiful!

i made a few changes this winter on clubs also took out the taylormade stage2 3 wood and 5 wood also a taylormade hybird

put in a 3 ad 4 callaway xhot woods and a ping 4 iron hybird

i like what he said to do with your old clubs putting them in a 70s bag i have some old 60s hogens irons and woods im going to look around for a old bag

hope you find some good clubs that fit you well

Tim

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I do still have the old nylon bag that I used to carry the Rams in, complete with Ram on the ball pocket. I used to still have the old strap-on free standing legs that one could buy back then, but those went away a few years ago during a rummage sale purge. I'm now looking again at the two AP1 clubs that I have. I figured out (via the ironfinder site) that they are the 2008-2009 versions, 4 & 5 irons with the Dynamic Gold R300 shafts in them. I may play around on that site and price out what it would take to complete the set one club at a time. Don't know if I'll follow up on this idea but it will be fun while I'm checking out what local stores have and while I'm test hitting various clubs. One thing I am now keeping in mind is that I would like to have a "conforming" set of clubs. Not that I have any real plans of playing in a tournament that would require conforming clubs, but I would like to have that option should the opportunity present itself. Then back to these 2008-09 AP1 clubs, and it appears that the newer ones conform but these specific ones are not listed on the USGA site. Anyway, too many words and time for sleep, perchance to dream of new clubs yet to be played on still snow covered frozen fairways....
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A few thoughts. Suggest you use a bright orange ball in the snow. A huge help.  Also, except for certain groove shapes on the irons which are forbidden, i believe you can use any arrangement of clubs you want.  Mixed up old/new, forged/cast, men's/lady's, graphite/steel...whatever. Conforming clubs do not need to be matched set.   A good place to find clubs is in retirement villages, where the old guys pass on and the widow dumps all the stuff to charity and no one know what to do with it.

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Just for grins I saw that one if the manufacturers had a trade-in deal going on so I plugged the TourEdge set into their program to see what sort of trade-in value they might offer: $15 for the whole set. No problem, I knew they wouldn't value high, but it was funny to see the $15 offer. I'm not complaining though, just thought it was humorous. On a brighter note, the Dicks sporting goods store near me was rearranging their golf area this week which indicates that local stores are prepping for the new season, and the semi-local Goldsmith store is starting to have weekly in-store events with manufacturer product release showings, and this all adds up to indicating that the golf season is soon approaching. Let the demo days begin, even if I don't get new or used clubs it will still be fun to demo some clubs and to start hitting the ball again.
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Just a followup, I've decided that for any clubs I upgrade/update to, I want them to be conforming to the new rules.  What this decision has been doing is ruling out at least 3/4's of the used clubs that are within my reasonable price range, this also ruled out several used sets at the local Golfsmith store as well.

I'm probably going to hold off until the local big golf show since that usually starts shaking loose a bunch of used clubs onto the local market as people then start to think golf again.

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Just a followup, I've decided that for any clubs I upgrade/update to, I want them to be conforming to the new rules.  What this decision has been doing is ruling out at least 3/4's of the used clubs that are within my reasonable price range, this also ruled out several used sets at the local Golfsmith store as well.

I'm probably going to hold off until the local big golf show since that usually starts shaking loose a bunch of used clubs onto the local market as people then start to think golf again.

What  "new rules"  are you concerned about conforming with?

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The USGA conforming rules at http://www.usga.org/equipment/conformance/Conforming-Club---Ball-Lists/ Just something that I want to do in the remote chance that I might want to enter a tournament where it stipulates conformance. I realize that many older clubs are grandfathered in (to 2024 or something) unless a local board or agency requires conformance, but even so I still want any new clubs I get to be in conformance.
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