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7I, 137 yds sweet spot. How many yards if contact is red dot (extreme toe end), same swing?


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Assume club is GI, very recent model. This is not me, but a repost of Mark Crossfield's social media post. No cheating! :-D

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My guess, and it's only a guess, is about a club difference. For a relatively slow swing speed (137 yard 7-iron) I'll call that 10 yards difference = 127 yards. GI irons are pretty damn forgiving these days.

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I'll post Crossfield's result at the end of the day. My guess was totally off. I'm not too knowledgable w/regards to clubs though.

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I've had that exact same strike before. I was hitting Mizuno MP-59's and the distance drop wasn't as huge as you'd think.

I would say being a 7-iron from 137 that the drop off would be to about 125 yards.

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The recent Taylor Made ad showed that their new clubs, when hit in these spots (heel and toe) lose little little distance (2-3 yds?) but accuracy is off by 5-8 yds. Using their version of Iron Byron at the 17th at Pebble.
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The recent Taylor Made ad showed that their new clubs, when hit in these spots (heel and toe) lose little little distance (2-3 yds?) but accuracy is off by 5-8 yds. Using their version of Iron Byron at the 17th at Pebble.

But the toe hit in the commercial is almost one ball further towards sweet spot than this shot.

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I went through a phase of toe misses and its amazing how short it goes when it doesn't feel THAT bad but you miss the grooves (I keep my clubs really clean so I can see the strike points).

I'd say the big issue is that you are hitting it where there are no grooves, ball goes nowhere and knuckles.

My guess is at 110 yds or so. I have a lot of experience hitting crappy shots. Really curious to see how Crossfield sees it.

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But the toe hit in the commercial is almost one ball further towards sweet spot than this shot.

That toe hit on the left, I'd be confident the drop off was very minimal. (Probably just a couple of yards) I'll hit really nice shots with my i20 short irons (heavy tungsten weight out on the toe - very forgiving) that pretty much go where I want them to and then see the mark out on the toe - like the pic on the left.

The pic on the right, however, the ball is entirely beyond the grooves.  There has to be some drop off, I would think.  I'll guess 120 yards.

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137, sweetspot to 132, toe.

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Cool thread. I would've guessed much less distance from a strike that far off-center. Here is some info from Trackman on the gear effect from that type of shot too. Link to source here-->

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This past summer, I got to test the SLDR irons for TST. I noticed that toe or heel hits*:

  • Lost maybe 3-5 yards carry; and
  • Ended up 8-10 yards offline.

* (This assumes a smooth swing that caught on the toe or heel, not a really bad swing. Perimeter weighting and face slots won't save you if you make a terrible swing.)

I pick up the YouTube clips by Mark Crossfield or Rick Shiels. Their tests on new 2015 iron models pretty much confirm what I noticed from my SLDR play.

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