Playing Golf with Someone Carrying a Weapon

[iacas]

You aren't faced with deciding whether deadly force is necessary placing a call in your car. If you carry you need to ask yourself am I capable of killing someone on purpose.

What evidence do you have to suggest that people estimate their abilities in this area poorly?

And if they believe they can shoot the guy who is about to kill themselves or their wife or child, and they're wrong, are they not in roughly the same position they'd have been without a gun?

Never mind the fact that you don't need a CCW to make that choice and buy a gun to protect your home (or in many states, your car). Also, never mind the obvious fact that almost every CCW owner will rarely face an encounter where this decision is required of them.

[jusanothajoe]

I don't doubt the majority of permit holders never have a problem but that says nothing about their ability to react in one, zero. Not to mention you posted data gathered by a pro gun site. If anything all it proves is the majority of permit holders don't need it. The old argument used to be you never know when you will need it not we are better conflict negotiators.

Using this analogy and the fact you have stated you have a CCW. Just curious, how would you rate your ability to react should things go bad ?

[newtogolf]

Using this analogy and the fact you have stated you have a CCW. Just curious, how would you rate your ability to react should things go bad ?

There are numerous variables that factor into this so it's like asking someone how they'd rate their ability to react to a car heading straight for them on a highway.

[dbuck]

I voted yes, could have voted maybe, but more yes than maybe.

If it is CCW and the person is permitted, I would prefer not to know, but perhaps they informed for my benefit. Some states have legal open carry. Just like golf, CCW has certain unspoken etiquette, and I prefer those be observed.

As long as no laws are being broken, and the person does not appear unstable, I have no problem with it.

[disco111]

After looking at the news this morning and the way the world seems to heading, we all may be carrying in the future.

[bkuehn1952]

I question the judgment of someone who feels they need a weapon on an every day type golf course. If personal safety is that great of a concern, should they not also wear a vest? And they might be engaged by a threat at a distance. A semi automatic rifle is really what they need so as to engage the enemy at a proper distance. So when I am told a fellow golfer is carrying or they display their "protection", I will choose to follow in the next group.

[MrFlipper]

I am amazed that folks are so overly paranoid about guns, or more specifically folks who carry them. Guess its a matter of environment.

I grew up in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona. Guns were a way of life. No big deal.

Played all the time in AZ with an FBI agent, he carried 24/7. No big thing.

When I lived in Arizona anyone could open carry, so you'd be at the grocery store or something and there'd be someone with a 45 on their hip or in their belt in back. Nothing out of the ordinary.

I'm sure I've played in AZ with someone with a 45 on their hip when golfing. Don't remember a specific time, it wouldn't have registered as any big thing at the time anyway.

[David in FL]

I am amazed that folks are so overly paranoid about guns, or more specifically folks who carry them. Guess its a matter of environment. I grew up in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona. Guns were a way of life. No big deal. Played all the time in AZ with an FBI agent, he carried 24/7. No big thing. When I lived in Arizona anyone could open carry, so you'd be at the grocery store or something and there'd be someone with a 45 on their hip or in their belt in back. Nothing out of the ordinary. I'm sure I've played in AZ with someone with a 45 on their hip when golfing. Don't remember a specific time, it wouldn't have registered as any big thing at the time anyway.

It's funny. Those that carry, for whatever reason are "scardy cats". Those that are so afraid of the very thought that someone would choose to legally arm themselves that they'll actually refuse to play golf with them, are prudent and cautious.

[Golfingdad]

It's funny. Those that carry, for whatever reason are "scardy cats". Those that are so afraid of the very thought that someone would choose to legally arm themselves that they'll actually refuse to play golf with them, are prudent and cautious.

Yes ... hilarious.  Because out of 88 votes in this thread, 54 of those are of the "no" or "maybe" variety (I hadn't voted previously, but just added myself to the maybe category).  And I'm certain you're correct that all 54 of us have said that carriers are "scaredy cats."  All 54 of us.  (In fact, I'm pretty sure I've said it like 8 jillion times)

So, by all means, lump us all together.

[David in FL]

Yes ... hilarious.  Because out of 88 votes in this thread, 54 of those are of the "no" or "maybe" variety (I hadn't voted previously, but just added myself to the maybe category).  And I'm certain you're correct that all 54 of us have said that carriers are "scaredy cats."  All 54 of us.  (In fact, I'm pretty sure I've said it like 8 jillion times) So, by all means, lump us all together.

Sorry, only 25 of the 88 opt to not play out of hand, simply based on the fact that they were armed. And yes, as evidenced within this very thread, many of those individuals tend to consider themselves prudent and cautious while characterizing others who choose to legally arm themselves as "scardy cats". Fortunately, nationally, as in this poll, such individuals are in an ever decreasing minority.

[Golfingdad]

Sorry, only 25 of the 88 opt to not play out of hand, simply based on the fact that they were armed.

And yes, as evidenced within this very thread, many of those individuals tend to consider themselves prudent and cautious while characterizing others who choose to legally arm themselves as "scardy cats". Fortunately, nationally, as in this poll, such individuals are in an ever decreasing minority.

I think you and I have very different definitions of the word "many."

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

I have my concealed carry permit and I carry a semi-automatic handgun on my person everyday. However, I don't carry it while on the golf course. I have a feeling the holster inside my waistband at 4 o'clock would be uncomfortable during a full round of golf. But I certainly would have no problem with a partner carrying a weapon in his bag, assuming he has the proper paperwork to carry. Why would this ever be a problem for someone?

[14ledo81]

I have my concealed carry permit and I carry a semi-automatic handgun on my person everyday. However, I don't carry it while on the golf course. I have a feeling the holster inside my waistband at 4 o'clock would be uncomfortable during a full round of golf. But I certainly would have no problem with a partner carrying a weapon in his bag, assuming he has the proper paperwork to carry. Why would this ever be a problem for someone?

I think some people are scared of guns. My wife did not grow up with guns around the house. She does not like them and it has taken her quite awhile to get used to seeing a (unloaded of course) gun on the table or corner of living room when I come home from hunting.

[rkim291968]

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Originally Posted by David in FL

Not directed at you personally, but I always find it interesting that so many choose to assume that people with any of the aforementioned credentials are competent until proven otherwise. But tend to assume the opposite when it comes to the possession/operation of a firearm.

That's because the anti-gun movement brain washes people into thinking gun owners are militia wannabe's  or psycho's on power trips that only buy a gun because they want to shoot someone.

I'm not saying this is how @Golfingdad thinks but it appears to be the common mentality.  Meanwhile handguns take the focus away from licensed drivers who put many more peoples lives in danger by driving drunk and texting.

I don't think that's the case.  You may be putting words in some posters mouth here.   I think people worry about a few who don't know how to handle their gun, like the guy who flashed his gun on a golf course.   Stat wise, most gun owners are responsible regular folks.   As for me, I don't know how to tell from a bad gun owner to responsible ones.  Hence, I will opt not to play with golfers who bring guns to the course.

[Strandly]

I probably wouldn't mind but as with most things in life a judgment call may be necessary.

[Strandly]

I have my concealed carry permit and I carry a semi-automatic handgun on my person everyday. However, I don't carry it while on the golf course. I have a feeling the holster inside my waistband at 4 o'clock would be uncomfortable during a full round of golf. But I certainly would have no problem with a partner carrying a weapon in his bag, assuming he has the proper paperwork to carry.

Why would this ever be a problem for someone?

Because some people are nuckin' futz.

[14ledo81]

[QUOTE name="MyrtleBeachGolf" url="/t/81903/playing-golf-with-someone-carrying-a-weapon/180#post_1143945"] I have my concealed carry permit and I carry a semi-automatic handgun on my person everyday. However, I don't carry it while on the golf course. I have a feeling the holster inside my waistband at 4 o'clock would be uncomfortable during a full round of golf. But I certainly would have no problem with a partner carrying a weapon in his bag, assuming he has the proper paperwork to carry. Why would this ever be a problem for someone? [/QUOTE] Because some people are nuckin' futz.

So it's the nutty person that bothers you, not necessarily the gun?

[Ernest Jones]

So it's the nutty person that bothers you, not necessarily the gun?

"Nutty person" and "Nutty person with a gun" provoke two different reactions in my mind.