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By no means do I think Democrats are faultless for the current political climate, but I'm not ready to say that both sides are equally to blame. It took months for Loretta Lynch to get a confirmation vote in the Senate, despite Republicans having no substantive objection to her nomination for Attorney General, and despite the man she was tapped to replace being maybe the only person in America the GOP hates even more than Obama. The same Republican Congress tried to defund Homeland Security, just because they could; they'd give the department a blank check when Bush was in office, and they'd raise hell about the Democrats hating America if they ever tried the same stunt. I don't think there's been a moment in the last five years where Republicans at the Capitol have acted in good faith; quite frankly, I believe this would be a most fitting anthem for the party during the Obama administration.

I reiterate from an earlier posting, "To lay the blame on one side or the other simply shows the level of polarization we are experiencing."  You have just proved my point.

Once the nation realizes that by working together and not blaming the other side, is the best way to solve the problems that face out nation, then, and only then will we rise to the task of making our nation whole.

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Right.   I've seen many polarizations happen over the years and most of them have led to nation fragmented into smaller ones, wars, and genocide.   I worry about where US is going on current divided path.   If it keeps getting worse, States may break away, and there may even be a civil war (in some distance future?).   Compromise is not a bad thing when two parties just can't see eye to eye.  We all do that in our daily lives.   Why can't politicians?    Back to OT ... DT does not strike me as someone who will compromise to bring people together in the middle.   Ego maniacs and narcissists are in it for themselves and we can't have them lead US (not that he has any chance to win the presidency).

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DT does not strike me as someone who will compromise to bring people together in the middle.   Ego maniacs and narcissists are in it for themselves and we can't have them lead US (not that he has any chance to win the presidency).

I agree. Trump tells people things that they want to hear. "I'll build a fence and make Mexico pay for it." - “I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created, I tell you that,” - "Trade with China and all countries, we’re being taken advantage of because we’re being led by fools."  Trump's rhetoric is grandiose, his ego is bigger.

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I agree. Trump tells people things that they want to hear. "I'll build a fence and make Mexico pay for it." - “I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created, I tell you that,” - "Trade with China and all countries, we’re being taken advantage of because we’re being led by fools."  Trump's rhetoric is grandiose, his ego is bigger.

Most importantly, his checkbook is not as bottomless as he wants us to think. He is very rich, that's for sure, but he isn't so rich that he doesn't have to make a point of how rich he is. The Koch brothers are worth $100 billion; they bankroll political campaigns how other men their age buy old baseball cards. They're dead serious about their libertarian-conservative political beliefs, while Trump is just an opportunist. They could bankrupt him on the campaign trail if they want to, and it would be a drop in the bucket for them. I usually hate the infusion of big money into the political system, but I'd make an exception to see the Donald forced to put his money where his mouth is.

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This is by no means a defense of Donald Trump, but there should be clarity on his bankruptcies. The man knows how to work the system to protect his own wealth, it seems. He never filed for personal bankruptcy, from what I can gather.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/04/29/fourth-times-a-charm-how-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/

First things first: Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. All of these bankruptcies were connected to over-leveraged casino and hotel properties in Atlantic City, all of which are now operated under the banner of Trump Entertainment Resorts.

He has never filed for personal bankruptcy — an important distinction when considering his ability to emerge relatively unscathed, at least financially.

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-does-trump-repeatedly-file-for-bankruptcy-and-still-stay-on-top

First, Trump doesn't get personally involved. He knows how to protect his personal finances. In both instances, Trump's corporations have filed for bankruptcy; Trump personally has not. Hence, when his casino fell into about a billion dollars in debt, the corporation filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Trump only made the decision to do so once he had spoken to his banks and bondholders. But, by filing, he gave his business the opportunity to regroup and reduce his business debt. It didn't hurt however that it would also reduce his personal debt, as Trump is likely the one every creditor would look to if the Taj Mahal couldn't pay up. So, in fact, Trump avoided potential lawsuits from credits and he may have also avoided personal bankruptcy by keeping his own bank account insulated.

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This is by no means a defense of Donald Trump, but there should be clarity on his bankruptcies. The man knows how to work the system to protect his own wealth, it seems. He never filed for personal bankruptcy, from what I can gather.

That's even worse.  He can take care of himself but not his corporation.   I doubt it if he will take care of US as if it is his own.   Bottom line, I don't think US needs a someone like DT to be its president.

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In the latest Republican only poll, he's in 2nd place at 11% after Jeb Bush.  :doh:

lol, way too early. He won't get the nod but he's shaking it up, which is good cuz the GOP has become far too stale.

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In the latest Republican only poll, he's in 2nd place at 11% after Jeb Bush.

lol, way too early. He won't get the nod but he's shaking it up, which is good cuz the GOP has become far too stale.

Comedians of the world are delighted he's in.

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I really don't think he has a chance, but if by some quirk he does get elected, I believe he would have the same problem Ross Perot would have had if he had been elected.  Both are leaders of business and used to getting things their way.  I could see them going to Congress and saying "We need to do X, Y, and Z."  Congress would then say back, "Sorry, that's not on our agenda today."

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Both are leaders of business and used to getting things their way.  I could see them going to Congress and saying "We need to do X, Y, and Z."  Congress would then say back, "Sorry, that's not on our agenda today."

That's the issue right there.

It is not and should not be the presidents missions to dictate what needs to be done by congress.

His primary concern is to figure out ways to make laws, programs and such work. He has executive powers to enforce the laws set down by congress. Really the president has a small list of powers and responsibilities. The only time he should be promoting a direction for the country is during the state of the union address and except under extraordinary occasions.

See Section 3 under Article II,

he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper;

The founding fathers wanted the president as far away from the legislative process as possible. He is to rarely voice his concern and only interfere with congress as little as possible.

Hey, running for election on the agenda that the president will not get involved in congress's affairs will not get him elected. Sad state we are in when the president can't get elected to just do the job he's authorized to do.

I agree, Trump will be heavy handed. I fear he will be horrible at foreign affairs. I can see him doing weekly press conferences to show boat. It would be horrible. He's just a narcissistic clown who likes to hear himself talk. He probably records his own voice so he can hear himself saying how great he is.

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I suspect the Donald is only in until September. After that, he must file reports, etc.

All hat, no cattle when it comes to running for office for the Donald.

I mean, why would he run for an office in which his powers are limited and for which he can and probably would be impeached? :-$

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I agree, Trump will be heavy handed. I fear he will be horrible at foreign affairs. I can see him doing weekly press conferences to show boat. It would be horrible. He's just a narcissistic clown who likes to hear himself talk. He probably records his own voice so he can hear himself saying how great he is.

It was entertaining for 0.5 minutes and I am already sick of it.   A few of my family members have narcissistic personality disorder and I can tell DT is displaying the exact symptoms  Of course, people with NPD will deny they are anything but that.

CNN is airing interview with DT today.  I hope media stop covering DT.  All it does is feeding his ego even more, giving him free ad time, etc., IMO.

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