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That's it, then. He's ranked 200 or lower in that stat; him missing fairways isn't the problem, but how badly. If he can get it to like, say 30 feet or so, I think that's when we'll see him really turn it on.

I looked at this stat from 2008, when it seems they started recording it.

Total strokes in parantheses.

2008: 28' 10" (62) - 4 wins
2009: 27' 1" (228) - 6 wins
2010: 34' 1" (174) - 0 wins
2011: 31' 10" (135) - 0 wins
2012: 28' 6" (248) - 3 wins
2013: 30' 2" (208) - 5 wins
2014: 33' 1" (96) - 0 wins
2015: 42' 1" (113) - 0 wins

There are obviously lots of statistics that relate to number of wins, but it's interesting to see that he's farther into the woods in 2014.

Being closer to the green, but in the rough can often be advantageous, but not when you get too far from the fairway and into treelines.

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I looked at this stat from 2008, when it seems they started recording it.

Total strokes in parantheses.

2008: 28' 10" (62) - 4 wins

2009: 27' 1" (228) - 6 wins

2010: 34' 1" (174) - 0 wins

2011: 31' 10" (135) - 0 wins

2012: 28' 6" (248) - 3 wins

2013: 30' 2" (208) - 5 wins

2014: 33' 1" (96) - 0 wins

2015: 42' 1" (113) - 0 wins

There are obviously lots of statistics that relate to number of wins, but it's interesting to see that he's farther into the woods in 2014.

Being closer to the green, but in the rough can often be advantageous, but not when you get too far from the fairway and into treelines.


I think, by using this stat, we can say with confidence that the driver woes appear to be an aberration. If he was 30 feet away only two years ago, then he should bounce back closer to that number.

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[QUOTE name="jbishop15" url="/t/83943/2015-wyndham-championship-discussion-thread/18#post_1188062"]   That's it, then. He's ranked 200 or lower in that stat; him missing fairways isn't the problem, but how badly. If he can get it to like, say 30 feet or so, I think that's when we'll see him really turn it on.  [/QUOTE] I looked at this stat from 2008, when it seems they started recording it. Total strokes in parantheses. 2008: 28' 10" (62) - 4 wins 2009: 27' 1" (228) - 6 wins 2010: 34' 1" (174) - 0 wins 2011: 31' 10" (135) - 0 wins 2012: 28' 6" (248) - 3 wins 2013: 30' 2" (208) - 5 wins 2014: 33' 1" (96) - 0 wins 2015: 42' 1" (113) - 0 wins There are obviously lots of statistics that relate to number of wins, but it's interesting to see that he's farther into the woods in 2014. Being closer to the green, but in the rough can often be advantageous, but not when you get too far from the fairway and into treelines.

there does seem to be a correlation between winning and proximity there... all of his "best years", he wins, all his "worst", he doesn't win... and when he was REALLY tiger, he was just amazingly long and straight... i bet the proximity in 2000-2002 was insane... some causation as well, as you note... longer (as long as it is reasonably in play) has been pretty well proven on this forum over and over to be a good thing... plus when you aren't as far into the wilderness, you tend not to make doubles (or even worse, others)... one thing that is definitely different about "winning tiger" and "not-winning tiger" is that "winning tiger" never seemed to make worse than bogey, and "not winning tiger" seems to make his share of doubles/others...

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there does seem to be a correlation between winning and proximity there... all of his "best years", he wins, all his "worst", he doesn't win... and when he was REALLY tiger, he was just amazingly long and straight... i bet the proximity in 2000-2002 was insane...

some causation as well, as you note... longer (as long as it is reasonably in play) has been pretty well proven on this forum over and over to be a good thing...

plus when you aren't as far into the wilderness, you tend not to make doubles (or even worse, others)... one thing that is definitely different about "winning tiger" and "not-winning tiger" is that "winning tiger" never seemed to make worse than bogey, and "not winning tiger" seems to make his share of doubles/others...


Yeah, I agree.

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DL-III with a putt for 63

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DL-III with a putt for 63

[quote name="Aflighter" url="/t/83943/2015-wyndham-championship-discussion-thread/36#post_1188142"]Tomorrow he shots 72.Boook it haa[/quote] yea, it is entirely possible dl-iii puts up an over par round tomorrow... :-P

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It used to be I would watch Phil half waiting for a train wreck to happen.

Now sadly it seem that mantle has passed to Tiger.

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Tomorrow he shots 72.Boook it haa

Or 66... ;-) [quote name="ccotenj" url="/t/83943/2015-wyndham-championship-discussion-thread/36#post_1188505"] tidy little 61 for sneds...[/quote] 31/30. Ho hum...

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
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and a not so tidy 3 jack from tiger on 1... :-( man, i HOPE he doesn't make a mess today....

Damn, don't get my hopes up like that! ;-) He putted like a witch yesterday!

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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[quote name="ccotenj" url="/t/83943/2015-wyndham-championship-discussion-thread/36#post_1188511"]and a not so tidy 3 jack from tiger on 1... :-( man, i HOPE he doesn't make a mess today....

Damn, don't get my hopes up like that! ;-) He putted like a witch yesterday![/quote] :-D yea, looking back at his round, that 64 could easily have been 67 or 68...

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