How would you handle unmarked GUR in a match?

[Martyn W]

That was pointed out earlier.

Thank you for pointing that out :)

 

There's an area directly behind the fringe of the 2nd green that's marked GUR about 80% of the time. The other 20% of the time I'd rather land in a bunker. It becomes basically hardened ruts from lawnmowers and other equipment and the course removes the pink stakes. During casual play we always consider it GUR and drop behind it. In a match, I'd do the same, take a picture, and let my opponent take it up with the committee afterward because I'd stand a better chance with them than successfully hitting the ball out and winning the hole.

I'd also have to play the original ball and we'd have to score both results - probably halving the hole taking relief, and me losing the hole not taking relief. This would affect the length of the match.

The problem with challenging before the next hole in our cases is that the "committee" is in the clubhouse, or out giving a golf lesson, not on the course. We don't have officials at our tournaments.

I would say from experience that 90% of claims never go to committee because they don't affect the outcome of the hole or match

[sjduffers]

I'd also have to play the original ball and we'd have to score both results - probably halving the hole taking relief, and me losing the hole not taking relief. This would affect the length of the match.

You don't get to play 2 balls per rule 3-3 in match play. The situation must be resolved between the 2 players (or teams) before the next hole or the committee must be involved then.  

[Fourputt]

There's an area directly behind the fringe of the 2nd green that's marked GUR about 80% of the time. The other 20% of the time I'd rather land in a bunker. It becomes basically hardened ruts from lawnmowers and other equipment and the course removes the pink stakes. During casual play we always consider it GUR and drop behind it. In a match, I'd do the same, take a picture, and let my opponent take it up with the committee afterward because I'd stand a better chance with them than successfully hitting the ball out and winning the hole.

I'd also have to play the original ball and we'd have to score both results - probably halving the hole taking relief, and me losing the hole not taking relief. This would affect the length of the match.

The problem with challenging before the next hole in our cases is that the "committee" is in the clubhouse, or out giving a golf lesson, not on the course. We don't have officials at our tournaments.

In a match there is no option for playing two balls.  That rule only applies to stroke play.

[DrvFrShow]

So what do you do if neither party can agree on a resolution before the next hole?

Edited October 10, 2015 by DrvFrShow

[Golfingdad]

So what do you do if neither party can agree on a resolution before the next hole?

They don't have to agree.  The player does what he thinks is right and the opponent makes a claim.  They find out later from the committee who was right.

[DrvFrShow]

Okay, then take a picture, take the drop like a GUR, play it out. If the committee rules against me, I lose the hole - same result as playing from the original spot. If not, we halve.

[Dormie1360]

There's an area directly behind the fringe of the 2nd green that's marked GUR about 80% of the time. The other 20% of the time I'd rather land in a bunker. It becomes basically hardened ruts from lawnmowers and other equipment and the course removes the pink stakes. During casual play we always consider it GUR and drop behind it. In a match, I'd do the same, take a picture, and let my opponent take it up with the committee afterward because I'd stand a better chance with them than successfully hitting the ball out and winning the hole.

I'd also have to play the original ball and we'd have to score both results - probably halving the hole taking relief, and me losing the hole not taking relief. This would affect the length of the match.

The problem with challenging before the next hole in our cases is that the "committee" is in the clubhouse, or out giving a golf lesson, not on the course. We don't have officials at our tournaments.

 

You are not allowed to play two balls in match play.  This is how it would work.  First you tell your oponent you believe you should get relief.  If he/she agrees you take relief, end of story.  If they disagree you have two choices. One, do not take relief, end of story.  Two, disagree with your opponent and take relief and play the hole  Your opponent then has two choices he can 1) say nothing further, in which case the hole stands as played or 2) make a claim saying he thinks you should not have made a drop.  Claims are made to the opponent, not the committee  He would just need to tell you he doesn't think the area was GUR and he wants a ruling when it can be brought up to the committee.  Often, unless you make a phone call, this is often decided after the round.   

Hope this helps.  Claims (R2-5) is not very well understood if known at all.

Edit: missed the other responses, so some of the above is redundant, sorry.  I've played a lot of match play, this really doesn't become a problem very often.  Most times there is an agreement between players.  If a disagreement does occur most time the opponent does not know he needed to make a timely claim, so the hole stands as played anyway.  I can not tell you how many times a player will come in after a match and said his opponent did this or that wrong.  The first thing I asked is , "did you make a timely claim".  Usually I just get a blank stare that pretty much ends the discussion and match stands as played.

Edited October 11, 2015 by Dormie1360