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Hey guys, I recently got a bomb tech grenade driver that plays 45.5"

I'm going to shave down the driver length to 44.5 from the butt end. The current swing weight is d2 and I'd like to stay between d1-d2. Will adding lead tape underneath the grip increase the swing weight?

I have no interest in adding lead tape to

the driver head.


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I am reading the clubmaking guide book from Golfsmith. You do not want to add weight to the butt end. It will decrease swingweight. Sure you could add tape to the head but it's only temporary and tacky. I don't blame you for not wanting this option. 

Since you are cutting the butt end I would look into dropping weight down the shaft and you use a cork to keep it in place. They sell this at The Golfworks and if you are going to do the work yourself it wouldn't hurt to buy the Golfsmith Basic Clubmaking book. I bought it online for like 5 dollars.  

 

 

 


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This ^ or a light-weight grip. 

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Spoon, so removing an inch would decrease my SW by 6. How many SW would I get back from a grip that is 33g less?


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7 minutes ago, Heffinger said:

Spoon, so removing an inch would decrease my SW by 6. How many SW would I get back from a grip that is 33g less?

I think that 5g on the grip can alter sw by 1 point. Maybe some of our more technical friends can "weigh" in. 

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13 minutes ago, TourSpoon said:

I think that 5g on the grip can alter sw by 1 point. Maybe some of our more technical friends can "weigh" in. 

http://www.golf-components.com/swing-weight-calculator.html

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the last time I tinkered with a golf club was on an older TM R-7 limited. I had cut the butt end by 1/2 inch as I recall, and than had to make adjustments owing to the length, grip change (removed "The Secret"), and added some aftermarket weights to the head. I think I ended up with D2.

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On 11/7/2016 at 8:45 AM, Heffinger said:

Hey guys, I recently got a bomb tech grenade driver that plays 45.5"

I'm going to shave down the driver length to 44.5 from the butt end. The current swing weight is d2 and I'd like to stay between d1-d2. Will adding lead tape underneath the grip increase the swing weight?

I have no interest in adding lead tape to

the driver head.

just a note. If you are cutting graphite, you may want to wrap the end in tape first prior to cutting with the right blade to protect from splitting. 

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I would try choking down to the length your thinking of shortening it to. Should give you an really good idea of what the club will feel like after cutting the shaft and then you can decide if you will want to add weight to the head. I've cut down plenty of shafts on drivers, fairway woods and hybrids before and if I'm honest most have been fine if not felt better TO ME ( that's the important bit, maybe the original swing weight wasn't right for me ) without adding weight but a few I've had to as they didn't feel right shortened. Try it and see. I've also heard a lot of people say they did this and but used a slightly heavier shaft. Hope it works out.

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I don't think decreasing the grip weight adds dynamic balance to the head of the club. It only reflects a static swingweight number. I say that because you are placing two hands around the grip area to hold the club and dynamic feel from the butt end has less effect.

 From experience, I counterweight a club with 30g of weight in the grip but it has no effect on head feel. Although 100g of counterweight will effect feel. But cut off an inch or so of length from the butt and there goes head feel. You've just eliminated an inch of a shaft holding a heavy weight at the end of that stick.

You will make the club slightly stiffer without that one inch (slightly) on the end. I'd try it at 44.5 and see what happens. For simplicity, I would add lead tape right above the hosel and wrap it. Or golfworks has tungsten tabs that adhere to the head, although I've had some fly off. The tabs look good.

A clubmaker will add a tungsten mini shaft and shove it down the shaft to add swingweight or hot melt a head.

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I agree, I wouldn't mess with the grip.  Changes should be made to the head.  

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1 hour ago, Mr. Desmond said:

I don't think decreasing the grip weight adds dynamic balance to the head of the club. It only reflects a static swingweight number. I say that because you are placing two hands around the grip area to hold the club and dynamic feel from the butt end has less effect.

 From experience, I counterweight a club with 30g of weight in the grip but it has no effect on head feel. Although 100g of counterweight will effect feel. But cut off an inch or so of length from the butt and there goes head feel. You've just eliminated an inch of a shaft holding a heavy weight at the end of that stick.

You will make the club slightly stiffer without that one inch (slightly) on the end. I'd try it at 44.5 and see what happens. For simplicity, I would add lead tape right above the hosel and wrap it. Or golfworks has tungsten tabs that adhere to the head, although I've had some fly off. The tabs look good.

A clubmaker will add a tungsten mini shaft and shove it down the shaft to add swingweight or hot melt a head.

Just want to add, with the boy off to school, and downing a cup of coffee and breakfast, I would wrap lead tape above the hosel or better, at the head, if it stays, just to find what amount of weight will work - experiment with it for a few days at the range and course, if possible, and then take it to a clubmaker so you have a comfort level as to how much weight works for you to give you consistent, fine drives.

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I've tried lead tape on the back of drivers. Only problem is, there is usually no place to put it owing to the shape of the head, it is usually on one side or the other unless one would place it directly on the back of the sole. The only other option would be to put the tape on the crown, but that is a bit unsightly not to mention how it would affect COG.

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