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A little bit of background, I have been playing golf for about 10 years, but in the last year or two I have been playing more serious and started tracking a handicap, typically has hovered right around 12-13. Typical scores are in the low 80s, so while I'm certainly not great by any means, I am decent enough to get my way around the golf course with mainly pars and bogeys, occasional birdies and doubles scattered in there.

I have never taken a formal lesson in golf or read any instructional books, but I feel now is the time for me to do that in order for me to keep improving. I know that the owner of this site was co-author of Lowest Score Wins, so keeping that in mind, which would be better for myself and my game, buying a copy of Lowest Score Wins, reading it, then seeing if that can drop my score some, or getting a lesson or two, having someone diagnose my swing flaws, work on those and then get a copy of the book in the future once my swing is more solid?

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Irons: :titleist: U505 (3)  :tmade: P770 (4-PW)
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c) Drive to Erie, work with me for a few hours, and I'll give you (and sign) a copy of LSW.

(Alternative answer… LSW is relatively inexpensive. Buy it AND find a good instructor with whom to take some lessons. Also, message @georgep as he's in Columbus and regularly drives this way or to Akron to meet up with me for golf or lessons. Or sometimes I go down to Columbus to play.)

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3 minutes ago, klineka said:

 so keeping that in mind, which would be better for myself and my game, buying a copy of Lowest Score Wins, reading it, then seeing if that can drop my score some, or getting a lesson or two, having someone diagnose my swing flaws, work on those and then get a copy of the book in the future once my swing is more solid?

Both.   

I see that @iacas has responded, but I'll finish my response before I read his.  LSW will provide lots of great info about analyzing your game, planning your practice, and planning your on-course game, and will help you play better virtually immediately.  I'm sure I've left some stuff out, but the book doesn't give much instruction about actually swinging the club.  If you want to get better, you'll want to improve your full swing, as well as all that other stuff, and you'll need instruction to do that.  LSW can be simultaneous and independent from swing instruction, I see no reason to make this an either/or deal.

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Dave

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18 minutes ago, iacas said:

c) Drive to Erie, work with me for a few hours, and I'll give you (and sign) a copy of LSW.

(Alternative answer… LSW is relatively inexpensive. Buy it AND find a good instructor with whom to take some lessons. Also, message @georgep as he's in Columbus and regularly drives this way or to Akron to meet up with me for golf or lessons. Or sometimes I go down to Columbus to play.)

PM sent. I would definitely drive up to Erie for my first lesson/s to be from you.

12 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Both.   

I see that @iacas has responded, but I'll finish my response before I read his.  LSW will provide lots of great info about analyzing your game, planning your practice, and planning your on-course game, and will help you play better virtually immediately.  I'm sure I've left some stuff out, but the book doesn't give much instruction about actually swinging the club.  If you want to get better, you'll want to improve your full swing, as well as all that other stuff, and you'll need instruction to do that.  LSW can be simultaneous and independent from swing instruction, I see no reason to make this an either/or deal.

Thanks for the input, seems like both is the way to go. Planning your practice is definitely something that would help me out a bunch, I struggle with identifying weak areas of my game and structuring practice around those areas. Sometimes I can do it, but not on a consistent enough basis to really improve.

Driver: :callaway: Rogue Max ST LS
Woods:  :cobra: Darkspeed LS 3Wood
Irons: :titleist: U505 (3)  :tmade: P770 (4-PW)
Wedges: :callaway: MD3 50   :titleist: SM9 54/58  
Putter: :tmade: Spider X

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both. 

 

these accomplish different things.   LSW teaches you what to pay attention to and what to work on to improve your game.   An instructor will show you how to work on those things.   Eric can show you both, I assume.  

sorry, Dave.  didn't read your response before I posted basically the same thing..   

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:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
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3 minutes ago, lastings said:

sorry, Dave.  didn't read your response before I posted basically the same thing..   

Great minds think alike. :beer:

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Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

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Just now, DaveP043 said:

Great minds think alike. :beer:

:beer:

:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

check out my swing here

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10 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

Is send a PM to JoeB from Tennessee and appropriate response???

LOL no offense to him, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I don't think I'll be reaching out to him for lessons anytime soon. 

Plus @iacas said he'd sign a copy of the book when I visit him in Erie, I dont think JoeB has written a book... yet :-D

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Driver: :callaway: Rogue Max ST LS
Woods:  :cobra: Darkspeed LS 3Wood
Irons: :titleist: U505 (3)  :tmade: P770 (4-PW)
Wedges: :callaway: MD3 50   :titleist: SM9 54/58  
Putter: :tmade: Spider X

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6 hours ago, klineka said:

LOL no offense to him, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I don't think I'll be reaching out to him for lessons anytime soon. 

Plus @iacas said he'd sign a copy of the book when I visit him in Erie, I dont think JoeB has written a book... yet :-D

 


I agree with everything that has already been said in the thread. A coach will help your technique, where as LSW will help you decide what kind of shots to play, when/where and generally help you plan your way around the course.

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