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2 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

I think the current reservation system is already hacked. Making people show up 1 hour early when rounds are typically 6 hours on the weekend effectively makes the round 7 hours. The way Bethpage is run is typical New York. Whomever knows the right person at the right time with the funds gets first dibs and it becomes ensconced, very little correlation to merit. I recall seeing Windows error messages on the reservation board, they're probably still using XP which is not officially supported by Microsoft anymore and very much hackable. I do see the other side though. New Yorkers/Long Islanders will skirt the rules whenever they can and Bethpage has to combat this. It's rule abiding people who have to tolerate the result of these polices. Big cities will always be a cesspool of silver tongued opportunistic conniving sharks.

Agreed. It is the perfect storm for poor customer service, a Long Island course run by government workers, a full tee sheet till the end of time, and a reservation system from the stone ages. Oh BTW, if you are out of state and your license expires you are automatically kicked out of the system without any notification. It does not matter if you renewed your license on time. I was getting half way through the reservation process and it would hang up on me. It was only till the next morning when a guy from BP told me why this was happening. I know, I know, another anti-hacking protocol......


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If you really want to play the place, just go as a single during the week mid morning to afternoon. You can practically walk on. No reservation needed. If you feel the need to play there friday-sunday, then you have to deal with all the crap that goes with it. 

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Friday to Sunday, walk up late in the day, less of a zoo, don't have to walk 1/2 mile to clubhouse, less congestion going home, don't wait 1 hour.

I do know my driver's license number by heart, like I do my university student/social security number, because I punched in the damned number a gillion times.

I guess the waiting overnight protocol does identify those who truly want to play the course versus half assed committed folks who'd make a reservation and cancel.

Steve

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2 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Friday to Sunday, walk up late in the day, less of a zoo, don't have to walk 1/2 mile to clubhouse, less congestion going home, don't wait 1 hour.

I do know my driver's license number by heart, like I do my university student/social security number, because I punched in the damned number a gillion times.

Thanks for all the tips! I am a golfer and will return and thus proving my point...... 


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I am sorry to hear about your experience. It is very New Yorkish, like a poster already mentioned. Very quick and sometimes rude. Give the course another chance. I will be speaking to a contact at the course about your experience. You will be getting something for your troubles. 

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I appreciate the offer. Nice to hear most of my fellow golfers feel the same way. Believe it or not I have fought my way through worse conditions. Ireland in 2009 we were pouring water out of our golf bags. Nice to hear from you. Cheers


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On 8/28/2017 at 10:02 PM, Aaron from Baltimore said:

I appreciate the offer. Nice to hear most of my fellow golfers feel the same way. Believe it or not I have fought my way through worse conditions. Ireland in 2009 we were pouring water out of our golf bags. Nice to hear from you. Cheers

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