Jump to content
iacas

NHL 2018-19

83 posts / 9105 viewsLast Reply

Recommended Posts

Want to hide this ad? Register for free today!

Wow, Ottawa, obviously negotiating from behind the eight ball, really took one up the bum from San Jose.  They should have just traded Hoffman straight to florida.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

57 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

Wow, Ottawa, obviously negotiating from behind the eight ball, really took one up the bum from San Jose.  They should have just traded Hoffman straight to florida.  

It's close to being Hoffman for Boedker straight up, right? I'm guessing Ottawa needed an NHL player to fill the vacancy, because San Jose got a much better return for Hoffman than Ottawa did.

The drama in Ottawa isn't over, either. They need to give Colorado their 1st round draft pick in either this year or next year's draft as part of the Matt Duchene trade. This year they hold the 4th overall pick, but next year, considering the direction the team is heading, could end up being 1st overall. Fun times as long as you're not a Senators fan.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

3 hours ago, billchao said:

It's close to being Hoffman for Boedker straight up, right? I'm guessing Ottawa needed an NHL player to fill the vacancy, because San Jose got a much better return for Hoffman than Ottawa did.

The drama in Ottawa isn't over, either. They need to give Colorado their 1st round draft pick in either this year or next year's draft as part of the Matt Duchene trade. This year they hold the 4th overall pick, but next year, considering the direction the team is heading, could end up being 1st overall. Fun times as long as you're not a Senators fan.

Both teams swapped minor league players and late round draft picks, so pretty much.  But seeing Boedkers’ production they might as well have went for Florida’s picks instead.   It would have left them a lot of cap space to back the truck up for the EK contract.  

 

And i agree, I really feel for Senators fans right now.  

Edit:  Florida snagged him for picks in the 2nd, 4th and 7th round.   Not a great return for San Jose, either.  Hoffman’s name is obviously mud right now.  

Edited by Warren Zevon

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

3 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

Both teams swapped minor league players and late round draft picks, so pretty much.  But seeing Boedkers’ production they might as well have went for Florida’s picks instead.   It would have left them a lot of cap space to back the truck up for the EK contract.

I really think Ottawa needed a roster player to fill the void or they would have traded him to Florida for picks.

The second half of that is if management doesn't demonstrate some ability to turn the team around and become competitive in the near future, Karlsson has very little incentive to re-sign with Ottawa. That guy is going to get a massive contract from whatever team he ultimately signs with.

3 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

Florida snagged him for picks in the 2nd, 4th and 7th round.   Not a great return for San Jose, either.  Hoffman’s name is obviously mud right now.

Florida traded this year's 4th and 5th plus next year's 2nd (FL traded this year's 2nd to NJ to offload Marc Savard's contract two years ago) for Hoffman and this year's 7th. Next year's 2nd is less valuable than this year's 2nd, but it's still basically a 2nd and a 4th for Hoffman (if you consider SJ moving upgrading their 7th for a 5th as the price difference for the 2nd being for next year). I'd say Hoffman is comparable to Marcus Johansson (maybe slightly more productive than, even) who NJ picked up last year for a 2nd and 3rd this year, so for SJ to pick up a 2nd and 4th this year is pretty much fair value.

Plus you have to consider that SJ just got rid of Boedker's contract and picked up a couple of decent picks along the way; they made out very well in this series of deals. Boedker was not going to fetch a 2nd and a 4th from anybody (maybe Edmonton? :-P) but essentially that's what they turned him into.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

   Gotta feel for Islander fans today.  Must be tough to watch your franchise center walk away with absolutely nothing coming back.

   At least the Islanders can retire Butch Gorings' number 91 now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

1 hour ago, Warren Zevon said:

Gotta feel for Islander fans today.  Must be tough to watch your franchise center walk away with absolutely nothing coming back.

Sucks to be them. I have no idea what that feels like. Scott Niedermayer was a defenseman, Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk are both wingers :-P

The first day of free agency has been kind of boring..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

4 hours ago, billchao said:

Sucks to be them. I have no idea what that feels like. Scott Niedermayer was a defenseman, Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk are both wingers :-P

The first day of free agency has been kind of boring..

 

What do all three of those players have in common with John Tavares aside from walking away from the teams that drafted them?

 

Lou Lamoriello.

And speaking of Kovalchuk,   I still think his ‘retirement’ was a joke.  The fact that he’s playing in the league again makes me hope LA flops this season, although I doubt that’ll happen.  

 

 

Edited by Warren Zevon

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

12 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

What do all three of those players have in common with John Tavares aside from walking away from the teams that drafted them?

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Not really sure what Lou has to do with Tavares. Presumably they barely know each other.

But yes, it's widely documented that he mishandled the Niedermayer and Parise situations (and Scott Gomez, but he wasn't exactly at the same talent level).

12 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

And speaking of Kovalchuk,   I still think his ‘retirement’ was a joke.  The fact that he’s playing in the league again makes me hope LA flops this season, although I doubt that’ll happen. 

Kovalchuk's retirement is an order of magnitude less ridiculous than Pronger's or Hossa's situations. But those guys were playing for the right teams... Kovalchuk did give up 5 years of NHL eligibility. 

LA is going to flop because they keep getting older and slower.


https://nypost.com/2018/07/02/bulls-t-john-tortorella-explodes-over-ex-players-backhand-slap/

This is too funny not to share.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

36 minutes ago, billchao said:

Kovalchuk's retirement is an order of magnitude less ridiculous than Pronger's or Hossa's situations.

Pronger especially. He was working for the league during the time he was still being paid by the Flyers.

36 minutes ago, billchao said:

Torts is such a class act… 🤦🏼‍♂️

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Torts doesn't know the meaning of turn the other cheek, but the comments from the Pittsburgh GM were out of line.

More significantly, I'm surprised Pittsburgh would commit to a player like Jack Johnson. I've seen a bunch of this guy in recent years. The reason he was a healthy scratch at points last year is simple. He isn't that good any more.. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Just now, mcanadiens said:

Torts doesn't know the meaning of turn the other cheek, but the comments from the Pittsburgh GM were out of line.

Ha ha ha. No. They were not. Tortorella has a looooooong history of screwing with and driving away good players. Benching them for shit.

And all JJ said was "I'm looking forward to being a part of a winning environment." CBJ can't take offense to that. They haven't won a playoff series… ever.

1 minute ago, mcanadiens said:

More significantly, I'm surprised Pittsburgh would commit to a player like Jack Johnson. I've seen a bunch of this guy in recent years. The reason he was a healthy scratch at points last year is simple. He isn't that good any more.

He never was very good. Except in going third overall. We'll see. He's a bottom four guy who will have sheltered minutes and not be playing for John Tortorella. He'll be with his old buddy Sid, and should regain some confidence. Oleksiak, Daley, Schultz… the Pens do pretty well lately with reclaimed defensemen. Still, I'm not holding out hope that he'll be a star or anything. Something "passable" is all I can ask for.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

57 minutes ago, iacas said:

He never was very good. 

This. He was always over-rated for some reason.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

   Can you smell it?   The regular season is right around the corner.   There’s a box draft I enter every year and this time around I can select McDavid, Crosby, and Ovechin with my first three picks.

 

    But then again, so can everyone else...🤨

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

On 9/23/2018 at 12:53 AM, Warren Zevon said:

   Can you smell it?  

 

I got a feeling my team will be smelling all season. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2018 TST Partners

    PING Golf
    FlightScope Mevo
    More to come…
  • Popular Now

  • Posts

    • It's speculation that doesn't actually matter. GOAT is not the longest driver or we'd already be throwing Cameron Champ's or Jamie Sadlowski's names in the discussion.
    • How far would golf's legends drive the ball using modern equipment? At the 2016 Ryder Cup, the 6-foot-5 Thomas Pieters belted a drive 324...   An interesting article on how players way back would have driven the ball with today's ball and equipment.  I didn't realize that Jack had driven the ball 341 yards in a longest drive competition when he was 18.  
    • Oy. I don't give a shit about two top ten finishes in a decade. Nor am I comparing Jack to Vijay Singh, a guy whose putting stroke has been AWOL since roughly 2011. He wasn't. That's easily refuted. As for straighter you're not comparing like to like - you don't know what the fairway widths were, how far the ball bounced, etc. But we do KNOW that Tiger was longer than Jack. Tiger at 43 with a fused back is longer than Jack was when Jack was 40, 41, 42, or 43. Tiger @ 43: 297.8 Jack @ 40: 269.0 Jack @ 41: 264.3 Jack @ 42: 264.6 Jack @ 43: 266.1 Tiger was almost 30 yards longer at 43 than Jack was at 40, 41, 42, or 43. Now, several posts in, you're changing that up to say that, given modern equipment or whatever, Jack would probably have been as long as Tiger. But that's not what you said. Uhhhhh… He didn't do that. Neither did I. No they aren't. Furthermore, if all Tiger had to do was hit the ball 266 yards, he could probably hit 80% of the fairways. Fairways that are likely narrower, etc. So you lost the distance one, and if you want to measure "accuracy" by "fairway hit percentage" I again will point out you're not comparing like to like. They aren't playing the same golf courses, the same fairways, or hitting it the same distances. Furthermore, and more importantly, I don't care about stats like this when determining who the GOAT is. If you do, that's cool, but what I care about is wins, dominance, scoring averages, that sort of thing. I don't care who had a better short game (Tiger by far), who was a better putter (tie?), who hit a better 7-iron (almost surely Tiger), or whatever. I care about Ws. So not only are you provably wrong on distance, possibly off-base on accuracy, but you're arguing about things that most people don't even care about. Nobody considers Calvin Peete in the GOAT discussion because of how accurate he was off the tee. Huh? No. 🤦‍♂️ Uhhh, according to Jack, it was 118 MPH. I call bullshit on that. Oy. I don't give a shit about two top ten finishes in a decade. Nor am I comparing Jack to Vijay Singh, a guy whose putting stroke has been AWOL since roughly 2011. He wasn't. That's easily refuted. As for straighter you're not comparing like to like - you don't know what the fairway widths were, how far the ball bounced, etc. But we do KNOW that Tiger was longer than Jack. Tiger at 43 with a fused back is longer than Jack was when Jack was 40, 41, 42, or 43. Tiger @ 43: 297.8 Jack @ 40: 269.0 Jack @ 41: 264.3 Jack @ 42: 264.6 Jack @ 43: 266.1 Tiger was almost 30 yards longer at 43 than Jack was at 40, 41, 42, or 43. Now, several posts in, you're changing that up to say that, given modern equipment or whatever, Jack would probably have been as long as Tiger. But that's not what you said. Uhhhhh… He didn't do that. Neither did I. No they aren't. Furthermore, if all Tiger had to do was hit the ball 266 yards, he could probably hit 80% of the fairways. Fairways that are likely narrower, etc. So you lost the distance one, and if you want to measure "accuracy" by "fairway hit percentage" I again will point out you're not comparing like to like. They aren't playing the same golf courses, the same fairways, or hitting it the same distances. Furthermore, and more importantly, I don't care about stats like this when determining who the GOAT is. If you do, that's cool, but what I care about is wins, dominance, scoring averages, that sort of thing. I don't care who had a better short game (Tiger by far), who was a better putter (tie?), who hit a better 7-iron (almost surely Tiger), or whatever. I care about Ws. So not only are you provably wrong on distance, possibly off-base on accuracy, but you're arguing about things that most people don't even care about. Nobody considers Calvin Peete in the GOAT discussion because of how accurate he was off the tee. Huh? No. 🤦‍♂️ Uhhh, according to Jack, it was 118 MPH. I call bullshit on that. Ha ha ha.
    • I’ve never been one to sit on my donkey for too long. The past four and half decades have pretty much been work for me , as so I know, for many others as well.  Developing my golf game will (not) dominate my new found free time. It will though give me a new avenue of pursuits that I hope will keep my mind expanding. Thanks for the input and reply. 
    • That sort of extrapolation is not possible.  You are talking that he would be hitting the golf ball further than the average long drive competitor. I am not buying it. He would be one of the longer hitters on tour. Jack is not the physical freak like Dustin Johnson. I would put him probably a top 10 in distance yearly if he was in his prime competing today.
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Dan42nepa
      Dan42nepa
      (63 years old)
    2. James Dalton
      James Dalton
      (78 years old)
    3. JMHARDING
      JMHARDING
      (29 years old)
    4. mwh1023
      mwh1023
      (52 years old)
    5. Skeesh
      Skeesh
      (47 years old)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...