My Swing (Nail)

[Nail]

I've been Playing Golf for: 18 months
My current handicap index or average score is: 17
My typical ball flight is: Slight draw
The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: Pull with my irons

Here are two videos of my 8 iron. Forgive the faces I make. There are a lot of things I do that I don’t realise I do. Any thoughts?

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I think it worked this time. Ya this is my 8 iron. I never realised I lifted my left foot or bent my lead arm as much. Any thoughts? Or any tips guys? On my swing in general I mean. 

My miss with irons tends to be a pull or pull draw 

Edited January 25, 2019 by Nail

[Nail]

Which of the 5 simple keys do I need to work on? 

Am I getting my hands forward enough at impact? I tend to have a very high ball flight. 

[boogielicious]

2 hours ago, Nail said:

Which of the 5 simple keys do I need to work on? 

Am I getting my hands forward enough at impact? I tend to have a very high ball flight. 

It’s hard to tell from that face on view because the camera is too close and above you because you are in a stall. Try and find a place where you can place the camera at waist level with the ball in the middle.

[Nail]

1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

It’s hard to tell from that face on view because the camera is too close and above you because you are in a stall. Try and find a place where you can place the camera at waist level with the ball in the middle.

Ya the range I go to has walls quite close. It’s hard to video. I’ll get someone to video the next time I’m on the course. 

[phillyk]

Swing looks solid for the most part!  Camera angle is a little off here, should be more between foot line and ball line.

Lower body stalls a little bit.  Looks like your left wrist has a tendency, maybe, to cup a bit, so try and make sure it's flattened to slightly bowed on the downswing.  Swing plane is pretty steep. You could shallow it out and swing the hands more around the body.

[iacas]

7 hours ago, phillyk said:

Swing looks solid for the most part!  Camera angle is a little off here, should be more between foot line and ball line.

Nope. It's fine - on the toe line, parallel to the target line (so an open stance will still look open). Between the ball and hands is no man's land. The ball is even worse.

7 hours ago, phillyk said:

Lower body stalls a little bit.  Looks like your left wrist has a tendency, maybe, to cup a bit, so try and make sure it's flattened to slightly bowed on the downswing.  Swing plane is pretty steep. You could shallow it out and swing the hands more around the body.

That's a big part of why it stalls.

There's kind of a lot to work on here, because they're all inter-related.

I'd do some wall drill stuff with a focus on Key #2/#4… but more the latter.

[Nail]

On 1/27/2019 at 10:40 PM, iacas said:

Nope. It's fine - on the toe line, parallel to the target line (so an open stance will still look open). Between the ball and hands is no man's land. The ball is even worse.

That's a big part of why it stalls.

There's kind of a lot to work on here, because they're all inter-related.

I'd do some wall drill stuff with a focus on Key #2/#4… but more the latter.

What do you guys mean when you say lower body stalls? 

Do you mean I’m not getting my weight forward enough or on time?

You think it’s because of my swing plane? Would the overbend in my lead arm and therefore the cupping of the wrist cause the steepness?

[iacas]

Yours doesn't "stall" as much as many others I've seen. When I say "stalls" I mean it stops moving (mostly). Often when someone early extends, the hips stop turning through, stop moving forward. Often because the golfer is doing what they can to shallow the club to hit from the inside a bit or at least get it out of the ground so they don't take a big divot.

[Nail]

3 hours ago, iacas said:

Yours doesn't "stall" as much as many others I've seen. When I say "stalls" I mean it stops moving (mostly). Often when someone early extends, the hips stop turning through, stop moving forward. Often because the golfer is doing what they can to shallow the club to hit from the inside a bit or at least get it out of the ground so they don't take a big divot.

Thanks for the input. Do you think working on a flat lead wrist and straighter arm in the back swing will help with shallowing the plane? What are the wall drills you mentioned? 

Thanks in advance

[iacas]

Wall drill:

https://thesandtrap.com/blogs/entry/40-the-wall-drill-for-a-proper-pivot/

 

[Nail]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Wall drill:

https://thesandtrap.com/blogs/entry/40-the-wall-drill-for-a-proper-pivot/

 

Thanks I’ll practice this drill at home and work on not cupping my left wrist and hopefully post an improved video of my swing soon. 

Thanks very much for your help 

On 1/27/2019 at 3:34 PM, phillyk said:

Swing looks solid for the most part!  Camera angle is a little off here, should be more between foot line and ball line.

Lower body stalls a little bit.  Looks like your left wrist has a tendency, maybe, to cup a bit, so try and make sure it's flattened to slightly bowed on the downswing.  Swing plane is pretty steep. You could shallow it out and swing the hands more around the body.

Hey phillyk what was the idea of the red line you drew? Were you looking to spot something in particular?

[phillyk]

9 minutes ago, Nail said:

Thanks I’ll practice this drill at home and work on not cupping my left wrist and hopefully post an improved video of my swing soon. 

Thanks very much for your help 

Hey phillyk what was the idea of the red line you drew? Were you looking to spot something in particular?

Just another sign to note for stalling.  When the hips move towards the ball in the downswing, it's harder for them to rotate.  The red line indicates where the butt started at setup and where you want to stay through impact. 

[Nail]

10 hours ago, phillyk said:

Just another sign to note for stalling.  When the hips move towards the ball in the downswing, it's harder for them to rotate.  The red line indicates where the butt started at setup and where you want to stay through impact. 

Oh cool thanks for that

[chspeed]

17 hours ago, phillyk said:

Just another sign to note for stalling.  When the hips move towards the ball in the downswing, it's harder for them to rotate.  The red line indicates where the butt started at setup and where you want to stay through impact. 

Just to offer another opinion, the "tush line" thing actually doesn't look too bad to my untrained eye. I would suggest he focus on the priority piece that @iacas offered, that of working on wall drill, and see if that takes care of any stalling.

I've been down the road of focusing on the tush line, and for me, it was a symptom of something else, and so trying to fix it directly was hopeless.

Anyway, just a thought - I'm certainly not a pro, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

 

[Nail]

6 hours ago, chspeed said:

Just to offer another opinion, the "tush line" thing actually doesn't look too bad to my untrained eye. I would suggest he focus on the priority piece that @iacas offered, that of working on wall drill, and see if that takes care of any stalling.

I've been down the road of focusing on the tush line, and for me, it was a symptom of something else, and so trying to fix it directly was hopeless.

Anyway, just a thought - I'm certainly not a pro, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

 

Thanks for the tip mate. I hadn’t actually worried about the tush line as you call it. I figured the wall drill and keeping the head steady would take care of that on it’s own

[Nail]

Two swings from today. I’ve been working on the wall drill and I thought I had fixed the cupped wrist but not sure now

[Nail]

Both shots were draws. They both ended up left of the green. The drew too much. It’s not the pull miss I was having but it is still ending up left of the green. 

[Slim_Pivot]

I respect the guts it takes to dress like Tiger...but with adidas shoes and hat! Ahhhhh! Lol jk man.

Keep up the hard work. Iacas has done a lot for my game in a short time. Make sure you do it his way (slow motion, tiny successes)-even if it’s painful at times. It works.