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    • Very sorry to hear that, hope you're back on the course ASAP! Just a suggestion that I often see overlooked, so I'm gonna try my best to help here, even if it is not the solution for you: Give dry needling a go. Get it from a DPT. Talk to medical professionals about it.  The effectiveness of dry needling in patients with chronic low back pain: a prospective, randomized, single-blinded study - PMC Dry needling (DN) is a standard procedure for treating musculoskeletal disorders. However, there are no clear recommendations for using DN in low back pain (LBP). Therefore, this study aimed to assess the effectiveness of... I've been tweeting at the Chasing Scratch Pod to get Eli some dry needling before any kind of hip/back surgery. They liked both tweets I've sent them, but they probably didn't listen, which I understand. I'm just some guy over the internet.  But is a massage gun effective at all against the back pain? I've had back pain refer down my leg but that pain was from taut bands around the spine and not the discs.  If dry needling fails, oh well. At least you tried another option in attempt to avoid surgery. It will only take a handful of sessions to realize if it's not helping.  Dry Needling Can Effectively Reduce Neck And Lower Back Pain! Dry needling is a technique regularly used at Spargo Physical Therapy to reduce muscular pain, muscle spasms, improve tissue mobility and restore normal motion. In some cases dry needling may even be effective for...   I've had my erector spinae muscles dry needled often in the past year, and to me, they feel like disc related pain even though they aren't. I'm not saying you're in the same boat, but who knows.  Very sorry in advance if this isn't the solution, but again, I'm sure your doctor(s) would agree you should exhaust all options before back surgery. Dry needling is very often overlooked as an option. Regardless of what happens, I hope your symptoms resolve ASAP and you're back to playing this maddening game!
    • Likely this:   30 minutes isn’t long.
    • Sorry to hear, Dave. Hope you get some relief before having to go the surgery route.
    • Yep, it was quite fun from the red tees and still had multiple ways to play it. A buddy who hits it shorter hit 3 wood short of the fairway bunkers and had a short wedge in. Another buddy hit driver between those trees through the cart path and left of the back greenside bunkers. His shot was ~280 or so but still had a really tricky pitch shot due to the mounding in the rough over there plus the slope of the green.  Then of course you still have the option to hit something like 150-180 and lay way back if you really didn't trust any long clubs that day.
    • Apparently, I didn't register the intent. My bad.  Here is from the TaylorMade Truck making Rory's Driver.  On the Titleist truck Nothing seems out of the ordinary. Not sure if the clubs go straight out, but maybe we overestimate how long they need to wait for the grips to set? Maybe they have a different process for quicker need times. If that is the case, why not just do that all the time. 
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