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Originally Posted by PaddyHarrington

An awful lot of bitterness towards Westwood on here I see....Americans must not like it when one of their own is no longer No.1 Golfer in the World...


Not for me. I enjoyed following him, Darren Clarke and Davis Love a few years back in a practice round at the Masters. Lee was always polite with the spectators. But I can't say I think he is really number one. You need a major for that ranking IMO.

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Originally Posted by PaddyHarrington

An awful lot of bitterness towards Westwood on here I see....Americans must not like it when one of their own is no longer No.1 Golfer in the World...

Don't be silly,  It has nothing to do with bitterness.  He just doesn't garner any interest from most People in the US.  He has a fairly blah personality, he has not really made an effort to gain a following over here.  Reaction to him certainly isn't as polarized as it is with Monty, but that's just because there isn't a lot interest pro or con.  Most of us just don't care if he ever plays over here again.  His presence or lack of it will never contribute to my decision as to whether or not I watch a golf tournament.

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Originally Posted by PaddyHarrington

An awful lot of bitterness towards Westwood on here I see....Americans must not like it when one of their own is no longer No.1 Golfer in the World...



I think you are making unfair assumptions. Very few people are "bitter" towards Westwood. For most, it's a feeling of apathy because we don't really care about him.

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Originally Posted by PaddyHarrington

An awful lot of bitterness towards Westwood on here I see....Americans must not like it when one of their own is no longer No.1 Golfer in the World...

I think this comment is a little unfair. I like Lee Westwood and think he deserves his #1.  He seems like a nice guy and uncertain why he commented on PGA players not wanting to play in Europe.  Both he and Rory are great golfers and I think it is too bad they don't want to play here more but since they are European I understand the the decision. Having said that I doubt Lee's presence will be missed much.  He is a bland sort of fellow and doesn't seem to have much of  a following here in the US.  Rory will probably be missed more than Lee, but again we have Ricky so not so much maybe.  But I personally wish both of them the best and hope it all works out for them.

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It really is a non-issue.  Westwood got his ranking by a computer formula, not by winning any tournaments.  He has earned the reputation as someone who can't win the big ones. can only come "close".  Doesn't really matter whether he shows up at the Players or not.  It will be a much bigger loss if McDowell, McIlroy and/or Kaymer do not play.  They have the star power or wins to warrant interest. Not Westwood.

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Lee Westwood is overrated anyways. And I don't like his swing... I really could care less what tournaments he is or isn't playing in...

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At least Martin Kaymer has actually won a major, i think he deserves to leapfrog Westwood as well and become #1.   If Westwood can finish the job this year and win the Masters, he can have it back.  It was his last year until the back 9 on Sunday, Phil just ripped it out of his hands.  Kind of the story of  Westwood's career so far, so close in the majors but no trophy.  With Tiger's struggles and Phil's health and personal issues, Westwood has had his chance to shine and although he is statistically #1 in the world rankings, does anyone really think he's the worlds best player.  I'll give him his due, he's very consistent but just doesnt win very often.

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Originally Posted by SouthernILGolfer

At least Martin Kaymer has actually won a major, i think he deserves to leapfrog Westwood as well and become #1.   If Westwood can finish the job this year and win the Masters, he can have it back.  It was his last year until the back 9 on Sunday, Phil just ripped it out of his hands.  Kind of the story of  Westwood's career so far, so close in the majors but no trophy.  With Tiger's struggles and Phil's health and personal issues, Westwood has had his chance to shine and although he is statistically #1 in the world rankings, does anyone really think he's the worlds best player.  I'll give him his due, he's very consistent but just doesnt win very often.

He is a great player and fully deserves the #1 spot, he will not have it long as i would not be surprised if Kaymer takes it off him especially the way he is playing this weekend at the Abu Dhabi, but there is a lot of harshness against Westwood on here, yes he is a bland player but he is also very very good. He isnt the most exciting to watch but he goes out and gets the job done.

There was a post a bit back about him stating he is staying in Europe this year and not going to play on the PGA tour. A lot of people took offence to this on here and gave out a lot of stick about this, come on he is English and wants to stay i europe with his family you cant blame him for this.

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Originally Posted by Chris G

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Originally Posted by SouthernILGolfer

At least Martin Kaymer has actually won a major, i think he deserves to leapfrog Westwood as well and become #1.   If Westwood can finish the job this year and win the Masters, he can have it back.  It was his last year until the back 9 on Sunday, Phil just ripped it out of his hands.  Kind of the story of  Westwood's career so far, so close in the majors but no trophy.  With Tiger's struggles and Phil's health and personal issues, Westwood has had his chance to shine and although he is statistically #1 in the world rankings, does anyone really think he's the worlds best player.  I'll give him his due, he's very consistent but just doesnt win very often.

He is a great player and fully deserves the #1 spot, he will not have it long as i would not be surprised if Kaymer takes it off him especially the way he is playing this weekend at the Abu Dhabi, but there is a lot of harshness against Westwood on here, yes he is a bland player but he is also very very good. He isnt the most exciting to watch but he goes out and gets the job done.

There was a post a bit back about him stating he is staying in Europe this year and not going to play on the PGA tour. A lot of people took offence to this on here and gave out a lot of stick about this, come on he is English and wants to stay i europe with his family you cant blame him for this.

Give him a break


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Originally Posted by SVTGolfer

Lee Westwood is overrated anyways. And I don't like his swing... I really could care less what tournaments he is or isn't playing in...



Great reason not to like him

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Lol ... most people here would pimp their Grandmother out in order to have Lee Westwood's swing for a day. This thread is just perpetuating the USA kicking Europe theme that is a recurring undercurrent on this website ... don't get me wrong I love America and Americans (I lived there for three years) ... I just wish the feeling was reciprocated more habitually ...

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Originally Posted by PaddyHarrington

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Originally Posted by SVTGolfer

Lee Westwood is overrated anyways. And I don't like his swing... I really could care less what tournaments he is or isn't playing in...

Great reason not to like him


I agree that it was a pretty silly comment.  Really has nothing to do with anything.  I don't like Jim Furyk's swing, but I still like to watch him play.

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Originally Posted by EnergyMatt

Lol ... most people here would pimp their Grandmother out in order to have Lee Westwood's swing for a day. This thread is just perpetuating the USA kicking Europe theme that is a recurring undercurrent on this website ... don't get me wrong I love America and Americans (I lived there for three years) ... I just wish the feeling was reciprocated more habitually ...


Sound like you are just a little too sensitive. His swing is odd but that doesn't mean I hate Europeans and don't want to travel there. BTW, have you seen anyone criticize Kaymer or his golf game? No, he has a good game and a major under his belt. And he should be #1.

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Originally Posted by MSDOGS1976

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Originally Posted by EnergyMatt

Lol ... most people here would pimp their Grandmother out in order to have Lee Westwood's swing for a day. This thread is just perpetuating the USA kicking Europe theme that is a recurring undercurrent on this website ... don't get me wrong I love America and Americans (I lived there for three years) ... I just wish the feeling was reciprocated more habitually ...

Sound like you are just a little too sensitive. His swing is odd but that doesn't mean I hate Europeans and don't want to travel there. BTW, have you seen anyone criticize Kaymer or his golf game? No, he has a good game and a major under his belt. And he should be #1.


But he isn't No.1,and if he should be No.1 then he would be(probably will be soon enough in fairness though)

Lee Westwood is No.1 on merit,you can't just change the rules because there is a Golfer you don't like in the No.1 spot.

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Originally Posted by EnergyMatt

Lol ... most people here would pimp their Grandmother out in order to have Lee Westwood's swing for a day. This thread is just perpetuating the USA kicking Europe theme that is a recurring undercurrent on this website ... don't get me wrong I love America and Americans (I lived there for three years) ... I just wish the feeling was reciprocated more habitually ...


Pimp my grandmother for a golf swing? I can't speak for Americans, but this Canadian thinks that's a really stupid thing to say. Even as a joke.

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Originally Posted by PaddyHarrington

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Originally Posted by MSDOGS1976

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Originally Posted by EnergyMatt

Lol ... most people here would pimp their Grandmother out in order to have Lee Westwood's swing for a day. This thread is just perpetuating the USA kicking Europe theme that is a recurring undercurrent on this website ... don't get me wrong I love America and Americans (I lived there for three years) ... I just wish the feeling was reciprocated more habitually ...

Sound like you are just a little too sensitive. His swing is odd but that doesn't mean I hate Europeans and don't want to travel there. BTW, have you seen anyone criticize Kaymer or his golf game? No, he has a good game and a major under his belt. And he should be #1.

But he isn't No.1,and if he should be No.1 then he would be(probably will be soon enough in fairness though)

Lee Westwood is No.1 on merit,you can't just change the rules because there is a Golfer you don't like in the No.1 spot.


Actually, there has been some talk about tweaking the system so more emphasis is placed on the current months and majors. Many thought Tiger maintained his #1 ranking too long. But when it comes right down to it, I could care less who is ranked what. The most important thing to me is who wins the majors and a few other important events.

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I am not speaking for any American but myself, but I feel that to become #1 in the world, you actually have to beat someone.  Westwood has not done that.  Yes, he is a very good player, but until he wins a big tournament, he should not be considered #1.  Kaymer has that major (and thoroughly kicked Westwood's and everyone else's @ss this weekend).  If anyone deserves to be #1, it is he, not Westwood.  And last I checked, Kaymer hails from Europe.

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