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How do you do it?

Hard to believe, I know, but I occasionally find myself off the fairway and sometimes, even more unbelievably, I'm so far off the fairway I am in the trees.  The low punch is a relatively easy shot for me (lots of practice), but I cannot for the life of me get it to turn right.  A low hook is easy as can be for me.  Low punch?  Impossible.

What's the technique?

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It's easy. You aim for the open area and shank it into the tree on your right.

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It's easy. You aim for the open area and shank it into the tree on your right.


I usually play that one when I'm trying to hook it.

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Moving the ball left to right is simply a manner of face angle relative to path at impact. Don't put the ball too far back in your stance, as that promotes a left-to-right path which makes a fade more difficult. Take more club...I only attempt this with a 5i or more because opening the face adds loft and thus nullifies the point of the punch shot. 4i or 5i, middle stance, aim left, face open. Don't swing too hard; typically over swinging results in pulling the path left, shanks, hitting the ball too high, or too far because you're maybe using more club than normal. Tempo is your friend on the punch shot. You're not trying to hit it 200 yards; if you were, you'd be hitting a different shot.

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I try to get a lot of weight forward with a 4 or 5 iron, which will get the club face delofted.  Then with the ball in the middle-ish of your stance with the face slightly open, it would still come out low but more of a slice.  The biggest problem I see with people trying to punch the ball is not making good contact, and they will top it or just not get the ball high enough off the ground; still gotta hit down on the ball and make that contact.

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I think the primary issue is most people move the ball backward in the stance to hit a shot lower. Then that just promotes a more outward path, which does not produce a cut. Then you have the issue with opening the face which adds loft. A low cut is very tough because it is a shot that is counter to what set up would suggest you do.

I would almost try to keep the ball position the same because it's hard to swing left when the ball is too far back in the stance. Depending on the shot, and how low and how much cut you need.

I would grip the club so it's more open, but then foward shaft lean to deloft it back. I want to create a position where the club has less loft with a slightly open clubface.

Then I would just try to keep that foward shaft lean and swing hard left. I would almost want to hit a straight to a very slight pull punch cut.

For a punch cut I would want a net neutral effect in ball flight coming from the forward shaft lean and the open clubface. I would want to produce the curve with all swing path.

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I can hit a punch shot easily with a 6i-GW, and can make it draw or hook, but as soon as I try to make it fade or slice I'll hit it fat.

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Moving the ball left to right is simply a manner of face angle relative to path at impact.

Don't put the ball too far back in your stance, as that promotes a left-to-right path which makes a fade more difficult. Take more club...I only attempt this with a 5i or more because opening the face adds loft and thus nullifies the point of the punch shot. 4i or 5i, middle stance, aim left, face open. Don't swing too hard; typically over swinging results in pulling the path left, shanks, hitting the ball too high, or too far because you're maybe using more club than normal. Tempo is your friend on the punch shot. You're not trying to hit it 200 yards; if you were, you'd be hitting a different shot.

For me it's just the opposite.  When I play the ball back I almost always fade/slice because I don't finish closing the clubface before impact like I would if the ball was farther forward.  I play a lot punch fade 5 irons - the hard part is aiming far enough left that I don't just push the ball straight into what I'm trying to avoid.

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It depends on how much you want to curve it. If I need to hit a huge, low cut I am going to pull out a 4 iron. Setup with an open stance and the club face more open than normal. I actually try to alter my swing path and swing out to in while leaving the face open and adding a great deal of shaft lean. Another option if you only need a small cut/would rather not try to alter your swing path is to set up with an open stance, open club face and take a normal swing while delofting the club face.

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How do you do it?

Hard to believe, I know, but I occasionally find myself off the fairway and sometimes, even more unbelievably, I'm so far off the fairway I am in the trees.  The low punch is a relatively easy shot for me (lots of practice), but I cannot for the life of me get it to turn right.  A low hook is easy as can be for me.  Low punch?  Impossible.

What's the technique?

Along the lines of what @saevel25 said, play the ball in the same position or even slightly forward. Aim well left with your body, move the head forward (towards the target) on the downswing, stay "flexed over" on the followthrough.

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I just always stand a bit open, steepen my swing plane a bit, and it fades naturally. Want to know how I hit a baby draw? By trying to hook it into the woods. How do I hit it straight? By trying to play a baby draw. LOL

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I just slightly open the club face, and use only my upper body and make a big outside in path across the ball while keeping the shaft leaned forward to reduce the loft your adding by opening the club face if there were a clock from my body with me a 6 and the ball at 12 my swing line starts at 2 and ends at 7, which results in the ball usually curving about 20-50 yrds right depending on execution.

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