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I did not know that. Just always assumed it was at impact. Dunno why, I guess it made sense. 

 

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It should be. Ideally.

After is dumb because the ball slows it down.

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Whoops. Recorded that at high frame rate. Re-recorded it at normal speed. 

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I'm skeptical of anything these people say.

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It’s not the announcers opinionating, guessing they got it from the radar guys. Would definitely want a deeper dive into this. I suspect we’ll get more details with all the eyes on The Masters. 

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1 hour ago, nevets88 said:

It’s not the announcers opinionating, guessing they got it from the radar guys. Would definitely want a deeper dive into this. I suspect we’ll get more details with all the eyes on The Masters. 

I don’t know about that.

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20 minutes ago, iacas said:

I don’t know about that.

Oi. I just assumed it was info interpreted from the Trackman or Flightscope guys, not taking one reading and making an assertion out of that. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised if it’s something like that. I hope Trackman or someone who knows what they’re talking about gives us real data on this. Shame on me for believing CBS. 

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2 hours ago, nevets88 said:

I did not know that. Just always assumed it was at impact. Dunno why, I guess it made sense. 

The speed curve is pretty steep for the driver. 

Also, most golfers are hitting up on the ball now. So the club should be slowing down slightly since max speed happens at the bottom of the arch. 

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33 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

The speed curve is pretty steep for the driver. 

Also, most golfers are hitting up on the ball now. So the club should be slowing down slightly since max speed happens at the bottom of the arch. 

Thanks. So shorter irons max CHS is closer to impact?

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53 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

The speed curve is pretty steep for the driver. 

Also, most golfers are hitting up on the ball now. So the club should be slowing down slightly since max speed happens at the bottom of the arch. 

It doesn’t have to happen at the bottom.

It could peak well after the bottom. Players have muscles. It’s not reliant on gravity.

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3 hours ago, iacas said:

It should be. Ideally.

After is dumb because the ball slows it down.

Thank you for this. I had this discussion with Shawn Clement and I stated the fastest part of the swing was just before impact. He replied, "no, no...so many people get that wrong. It's about 2 feet past impact. That's why you need to focus on swinging through to your target and not at the ball."

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20 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Thank you for this. I had this discussion with Shawn Clement and I stated the fastest part of the swing was just before impact. He replied, "no, no...so many people get that wrong. It's about 2 feet past impact. That's why you need to focus on swinging through to your target and not at the ball."

He’s so wrong.

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According to Trackman, Koepka is 3.7 down at impact for driver. McIlroy hits like 3-4 up right? Koepka’s max CHS closer to impact than McIlroy’s?

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8 hours ago, nevets88 said:

According to Trackman, Koepka is 3.7 down at impact for driver. McIlroy hits like 3-4 up right? Koepka’s max CHS closer to impact than McIlroy’s?

No idea. Does it matter? You can accelerate the clubhead on the upswing.

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33 minutes ago, billchao said:

No idea. Does it matter? You can accelerate the clubhead on the upswing.

Yeah, doesn't matter much. But CBS bought it up. Expecting too much for them to get it right.

 

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Don't blame them. Blame the folks who fed them the numbers if you have the absolute need to "blame" someone! I also found the motion analysis of Koepka's swing interesting since someone has now invented technology where this can be done without players wearing markers. Heck, if you're going to mistrust technology, throw away Trackman, launch monitors, and GPS while you're at it. And get rid of your computer too! Nothing trustworthy on the internet!

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11 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Don't blame them. Blame the folks who fed them the numbers if you have the absolute need to "blame" someone! I also found the motion analysis of Koepka's swing interesting since someone has now invented technology where this can be done without players wearing markers. Heck, if you're going to mistrust technology, throw away Trackman, launch monitors, and GPS while you're at it. And get rid of your computer too! Nothing trustworthy on the internet!

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